speedrun.com speedrun.com speedrun.com
  • Games
  • Streams
  • Forums
  • More...
    Home Games Streams Forums
    News Knowledge Base About Support Hub SRC Supporter Speedrun Shop
    Night Mode
    Social
    Twitter Discord
  • Log in
  • Sign up
Language (Beta)

български

Català

Čeština

Dansk

Deutsch

ελληνικά

English

Español

Français

Gaeilge

Gàidhlig

Bahasa Indonesia

Italiano

עברית‎

Latviešu valoda

Lietuvių kalba

Nederlands

日本語

Norsk

Polski

Português

Русский

Suomi

Svenska

Türkçe

中文 (简体)

中文 (繁體)

български

Català

Čeština

Dansk

Deutsch

ελληνικά

English

Español

Français

Gaeilge

Gàidhlig

Bahasa Indonesia

Italiano

עברית‎

Latviešu valoda

Lietuvių kalba

Nederlands

日本語

Norsk

Polski

Português

Русский

Suomi

Svenska

Türkçe

中文 (简体)

中文 (繁體)

Cancel
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Super Mario series
NES, SNES, WiiVC, GBA, Wii, 3DSVC +
FDS, WiiUVC, NESClassic, Switch, SNESClassic
Leaderboards
    Full Game Leaderboard Category Extensions
News Guides Resources Streams Forum Statistics Boosters ROM Hacks
Super Mario Bros. Forum  /  4:54?

FreddyMasonFreddyMason

South Korea

  FreddyMasonFreddyMason
9 Nov 2018, 08:06

It's a little early since 4:55 was just out...anyway, can human reach 4:54?

 

slippy318slippy318

Illinois, USA

  slippy318slippy318
9 Nov 2018, 08:19

Technically, yes. A 4:54 is possible without the "simultaneous left+right" that isn't possible on the original hardware, so a human theoretically achieve it.
Here is a human theory TAS:

 

FreddyMasonFreddyMason

South Korea

  FreddyMasonFreddyMason
9 Nov 2018, 09:33

Is it impossible without TAS?

 

NovawolfNovawolf

(He/Him)

Ohio, USA

  NovawolfNovawolf
9 Nov 2018, 12:18

It's possible, but undescribably difficult. WR contenders would have to do TAS FPG in 8-1 and TAS 4-2, both of which are ridiculous to save in a run on their own, let alone doing both of them and all the other glitches in a run. Doing both would save .7s in a run, and then .1 could be saved in 8-4 by doing fast accels. Again, this is extremely difficult, so while it's possible, it's not going to happen anytime soon.

tranceking26tranceking26, ThelxinoeThelxinoe and 3 others
Liked by

tranceking26tranceking26

ThelxinoeThelxinoe

MurphInTheWildMurphInTheWild

slippy318slippy318

grodney2000grodney2000

Close
like this. 

grodney2000grodney2000

United States

  grodney2000grodney2000
9 Nov 2018, 14:02 (edited: 10 Nov 2018, 00:03)

The "sum of bests" ever achieved by humans, from save-states or in runs or whatever, is 4:55.213.

That includes the fastest 8-4 ever....which is more than 10 frames (0.167 seconds) faster than it's been done in any recent record run.

And as mentioned above, that also includes a framerule in 8-1 that has only been done from a save-state, and only by something like 4 people.

So those only get you to 4:55.213. To go 4:54, you'd need a faster 4-2 to save another framerule (0.350 seconds), which hasn't ever (yet?) been done by a human.

In short, for 4:54:
- Do all the tricks already being done.
- Add 8-1 that's only been done from savestates and only by approx 4 people.
- Add 4-2 that's never been done by a human in any way
- Run 8-4 about 2-3 frames faster than any recent record run.

p.s. Edited to change 8-1 to 4 people based on next post.

tranceking26tranceking26, MurphInTheWildMurphInTheWild and 10 others
Liked by

tranceking26tranceking26

MurphInTheWildMurphInTheWild

drimysdrimys

youtubeman06youtubeman06

NoraScrubChanNoraScrubChan

eddiecatgamingeddiecatgaming

SadlerSadler

NigelzOneNigelzOne

slippy318slippy318

NovawolfNovawolf

rossyenerichrossyenerich

DarpeyDarpey

Close
like this. 

zsjetu9zsjetu9

Antarctica

  zsjetu9zsjetu9
9 Nov 2018, 17:23 (edited: 27 Nov 2018, 17:12)

8-1 has been done by 5 people.

MurphInTheWildMurphInTheWild likes this. 

FreddyMasonFreddyMason

South Korea

  FreddyMasonFreddyMason
10 Nov 2018, 01:22

To grodney2000
interesting! thanks for answering 🙂

 

rossyenerichrossyenerich

Wisconsin, USA

  rossyenerichrossyenerich
10 Nov 2018, 01:30

tranceking26tranceking26, MurphInTheWildMurphInTheWild and 6 others
Liked by

tranceking26tranceking26

MurphInTheWildMurphInTheWild

KosmicKosmic

Ribb95Ribb95

NovawolfNovawolf

Mars02Mars02

darGdarG

NoraScrubChanNoraScrubChan

Close
like this. 

Mars02Mars02

(He/Him)

New Hampshire, USA

  Mars02Mars02
10 Nov 2018, 13:40 (edited: 12 Nov 2018, 21:55)

For now the time wr attempters are aiming at is around 4:55.6, but like what other's have said, it would not be easy. 8-1 framerule save is one of the only timesaves that could possibly get a human to 4:54. Let's not rush it though.

 

xx_420_blazit_xxxx_420_blazit_xx

Antarctica

  xx_420_blazit_xxxx_420_blazit_xx
10 Nov 2018, 20:21 (edited: 10 Nov 2018, 20:26)

8-1 has been done by 4 people hmm. who is this 4th person? ?

 

zsjetu9zsjetu9

Antarctica

  zsjetu9zsjetu9
11 Nov 2018, 00:05

stuckinaplate
shadowphoenix
kosmic
warpedclip
not aldyn

Ribb95Ribb95 likes this. 

xx_420_blazit_xxxx_420_blazit_xx

Antarctica

  xx_420_blazit_xxxx_420_blazit_xx
11 Nov 2018, 00:18 (edited: 11 Nov 2018, 00:26)

is there a video of warpedclip doing this because no vid no did otherwise.

 

zsjetu9zsjetu9

Antarctica

  zsjetu9zsjetu9
11 Nov 2018, 00:42

he's going to upload soon it he said

 

xx_420_blazit_xxxx_420_blazit_xx

Antarctica

  xx_420_blazit_xxxx_420_blazit_xx
11 Nov 2018, 00:53 (edited: 11 Nov 2018, 00:54)

I seen the other day he said he "saved the 8-1 framerule" but I'm not sure about that looking at his other videos..

 

EthanAlexEEthanAlexE

British Columbia, Canada

  EthanAlexEEthanAlexE
12 Nov 2018, 21:28 (edited: 12 Nov 2018, 21:54)

4-2 framerule using the new Happy Lee method seems totally possible/consistent. I got really close in practice. (wouldn't call it practice if I have a 5:05 though)

Happy Lee 4-2 framerule :

 

Mars02Mars02

(He/Him)

New Hampshire, USA

  Mars02Mars02
12 Nov 2018, 21:59 (edited: 12 Nov 2018, 21:59)

Now we've found ourselves a way to the 4:54! 😃 8-1 framerule save, and another 4-2 framerule save. But like I said before, let's not shoot for the late 4:54 as the first 4:55 was just done around a month ago.

 

EthanAlexEEthanAlexE

British Columbia, Canada

  EthanAlexEEthanAlexE
14 Nov 2018, 06:00

I left out the detail that "TAS 4-2" is by far the hardest trick in the game. when I said "consistent" it was more along the lines of: clip, warp, move onto the next world with frames of leeway. possible, but so difficult that it is not viable RTA (fast accel isn't even viable yet)

@Mars02 TBH 4:54 is a while down the line. unless someone finds a different way to clip into something, we might not see it for a while

 
Latest News
View all
12 May 2022
NTSC/PAL Leaderboard Separation
Recent Threads
View all
Thread Author
How to hold controller for 8-B first room?
Last post 8 Feb 2023
LiamTraderLiamTrader
0 replies
NTSC Nestopia Speed Problems
Last post 2 Feb 2023
Bluerat007Bluerat007
5 replies
SMB Pellsson rom
Last post 31 Jan 2023
Graysongomes927Graysongomes927
2 replies
Minus World Practice Rom?
Last post 30 Jan 2023
VickslandVicksland
3 replies
Easy Method for 8-2 Blant
Last post 29 Jan 2023
VGCadetVGCadet
3 replies
Moderators
roopert83roopert83  BismuthBismuth  somewessomewes  KosmicKosmic  SuperSonicSuperSonic  scalpelscalpel  eddiecatgamingeddiecatgaming  RoyLTRoyLT  goofychocobogoofychocobo  ImDangerous20ImDangerous20  xeroxfiendxeroxfiend  jscarbojscarbo  GTAceGTAce  Validusername16Validusername16  ThelxinoeThelxinoe  NiftskiNiftski  Kriller37Kriller37  Joshua69Joshua69  Sawyer0622Sawyer0622  Simplistic_MemesSimplistic_Memes 
speedrun.com speedrun.com
Overview
Games Forums Streams News
Support
Knowledge Base About Support Hub Partnerships
More
Become a Supporter Speedrun Shop Privacy Policy Terms of Use
Socials
Twitter Discord
Copyright 2023
Elo Entertainment Inc.