I think someone will definitely have pl8-1 before a 454 probably a 4:55.3xx or 4:55.4xx then 8-4 will have to become more optimized and then maybe someone could get t8ven-2 in a wr and get a very high 4:54.9xx this probably won’t happen for quite a while considering that t8aven-2 has only been done once in practice but pl8-1 already has been done in a run so I see a 4:55.3xx in the near future
Lul_ecks_dee I don’t think 4:53 is possible the tas is close but the last time the tas was Improved was 2010 so I don’t think 4:53 is possible with L+R 4:53 isn’t even a question when considering RTA rules but WR could get close if 4-2 framerule is saved in future runs (I highly doubt it though)
Yeah, with the actual stats I thin 4:53 is definitly not posible by the moment, but 4:54 definitly yes
I wouldn’t say “definitely” yet for a 454 a 455 is still extremely difficult and 2 new framerule saves would need to be implemented 1-2 clip is still extremely hard to get when going for 455 about 10% so I don’t think top level runners want to go for a unrealistic goal at this point not yet at least and since 8-1 and 8-2 are towards the end of the run the chance of getting a run on pace is already very low an doing both pl8-1 and t8ven-2 is very unrealistic in my opinion maybe someday tho
I didn't say 4:53 was possible, or that 4:54 would be the next WR, I just said there's no harm in talking about a thicc time ok um The very successful people aren't very realistic (like look at Elon Musk) ok um I should stop wasting time, it's expensive Also it's like when you're kinda realistic it's kinda boring and you kinda put a fake limit on yourself that's unnecessary. so uh cos time
Has anyone done a Human Theory TAS that is below 4:55? It seems like if that is missing, that we really don't have a solid path to 4:54 at all, if one exists. I'm all for theory, but it seems we'd really need some brand new ideas that are completely new to do it.
Humans aren’t likely to have such a good 8-4 in a run but pl8-1 has already been done in a run by tavenwebb2002 so I think the best time a human could get for now would be a 4:55.2xx adding pl8-1 and another fast acceleration in 8-4
It doesn't matter whether there's a 4:54 human theory TAS right now or not, we're so far away that it's not at the utmost importance right now. or, what if I made the human theory TAS?
Oh yeah that bounty, That's still up for grabs it seems. Somebody get that 4:54 and use that $50 to buy Willy Wombat on the Sega Saturn
We don't need a "human theory TAS" to know that humans can do 4:54. It's already been done in segments. By one person, no less. That proves, with no room for argument, that 4:54 is possible.
4:54 is extraordinarily unlikely, no doubt. But there is also no doubt that it's possible with what we know, and what has already been done.
The problem is that without a human theory TAS, there's no complete run evidence that it is actually possible. I'd be highly interested in seeing someone put together a human theory TAS that can show a lower time, using the best segments we have. But without that it just seems like wishful thinking.
My original estimate for 454 was ~2025. Given that the human SOB is now a 454, I'm gonna say 2022-2023. Not for a long time, but very possible.
Maybe, unless Todd Rogers decides to say that he got a 4:53 and it’s not a TAS
Let’s be real Todd would claim a 4:49 or something like that 🤣
Any% (NTSC) runs below 4:57.000 must now fulfill additional requirements in order to be verified.
- The run's full session must be included in the submission description.
- For emulator runs below 4:57.000, some form of input display must be visible for the duration of the run. A hand-cam or input