i can appreciate the idea of having a shorter run like gillman% that was mentioned years ago, but im also not keen on having a category that doesnt beat the game just because the game is long and tedious to get through.

this is not a popular game to run, its difficult to emulate, and only 5 people have played through the whole thing in the past few years so to create a new category seems like overkill at the moment. but that could always change in the future.

for transparency sake, we have noticed that the sega version, the way the screen loads in at the end where bart is at his desk is different than the snes version. timing for sega version is slightly different as there is no input needed at desk to progress to the final score screen. we figured it made sense, and would be easy to end the timer on the first frame of barts hand holding the 8th page.

ideally timer would stop upon last meaningful input, but due to the nature of the doors being random, fade out was also an option but for the ease of everyone, for the sega/mega drive version, timing is from start press to first frame of bart's hand holding the 8th page.

i know its not a popular category but rules have been adjusted, runs retimed. thanks

eh nice try random guy who doesnt run nes games. congrats on the new halfthegame% category everyone!!

not really much of a speed run. but cool someone did it

Hey there, I know this is a dead game, but I wanted to post some changes that were made to this board so that anyone that comes along understands why these changes were made.

“superscope%” has been changed to item% (because you don’t need a superscope to do this category)… this is an any% run, but it uses a debug tool to give the player all the items (pressing any button on 2nd screen with controller 2 / superscope/ mario paint mouse), from there, you must find the 7 blood vials then make your way to the final boss.. this category uses ONLY this exploit. In this category, you must defeat all enemies in rooms to have kat walk to the next room, you must also beat all mini bosses you run into.

We recently discovered that if you press select with controller 2, you do not need to defeat enemies in a room, you can skip through boss rooms, you can go through locked doors without transforming into a key, you can get to final boss area without collecting any blood vials. This discovery has turned a 26 minute run into a 7 minute run… and because of that I feel that it should be its own category apart from the classic “superscope%” (now item%) that Fluffytoycoy did 5 years ago.

The new category that uses the player 2 select button to skip rooms and mini bosses is “any%” because it seems that using controller 2 is purely for debugging and natsume left it in for some reason. this category will be a simple catch all for any and all exploits, or glitches, or warps.

So to be clear any% glitchless: beat the game as intended, finding the needed items, and all 7 blood vials, without using any debug exploit in the run.


item% (previously known as superscope%): you press any button on controller 2 on the 2nd screen where the net is, to get all items. go through the mansion, find 7 blood vials and beat the game!

any%: use controller 2 to get all items, and press select to skip through rooms/locked doors/ mini bosses and continue to final boss.

Looking forward to new runs in the future, im always open to suggestions so feel free to let me know what you’re thinking, and good luck on that final boss… she’s the worst.

ah yes the good old half the game%

lol ive finally found the best thread on src

thanks for your interest but seaman was originally created by yoot saito who worked for vivarium in japan. as for jellyvision, because a company helped localize a game, it does not make it part of a series they later created. the two games are not related in the slightest.

concerning this topic, and lol at my old post here... i have talked with a few people and we have come to the agreement that changing the amount of bombs and lives at the start gives a huge advantage and is not fair to old runs, and we will be taking off runs that have recently used this. its only 2 runs, i spoke with one of the people, and the others were banned from src for cheating so its not an issue.

will specify in the rules that default amount of bombs and lives only. thankyou for being flexible!

thats a big one!

https://www.speedrun.com/nss/thread/p7jr0

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come on in, the waters fineee

gillman% is not a bad idea, and is a bit more easy to get some runs done, and make it less intimidating to approach. if you want to do a run, i will aswell and we can get a board going!

there is a category for every difficulty if you look at the page... you can pick whatever you want. gl

this has been talked about in the past. the best/safest way to get an a+ is to stand there and farm points from the furnace probably, which takes quite a long time to rack up enough points, not involving much other than standing there and shooting the enemies. it then turns into a high score chase instead of a speedrun.

maybe if there are more people that are very interested in this category we can consider, but at this time, i dont see any point in making a new category that no one will run besides possibly you.

feel free to chime in if you think otherwise, we are deff open to discussion

just an update, we made a separate board for the aca version as it indeed does run faster, and it was an official release.

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thanks for the explanation, i appreciate it!

also wondering why all the times changed on the leaderboards

the shooting game just keeps looping at faster speeds (which the run ends this game early), dj isnt really a game, the running/hurdles game seems okay, but maybe include the mashing of A button to raise the flag after you finish the level? (not done in the run) and ball just seems like a high score thing, (that wasnt done in the run) also not sure whats up with watching the credits for more than half the run. also the credits are very different from NA release to JP release.

just wanted to see if anyone out there has any ideas on a legit route as this might be a goofy fun game to do if it had an actual end game, but at the moment it just seems pretty random.

edit: what version of superboy/emulator is rather important i think due to the clocking difference of time with the super gameboy 1 vs the super gameboy 2