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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

@KilleDragon I'm not a freaking machine. Doing mistakes can happen. I'm kinda sick of your recent posts on this forum. So if it's for saying things like that, post nothing. This is my last warning otherwise we (src staff) take action.

Also time is now fixed.

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

Please read it before making a thread about this. Any thread about emulator will be deleted from now.

Why we don't allow the emulators on the leaderboards

It's simple:

  • The community decided to ban emulators a long while ago.

  • Emulators are unnoficial releases (even if you have the game disc, emu is playing an unofficial copy of the game) and once again the community is still against allowing submissions from unofficial releases.

  • Loads are much faster and way too inaccurate than the Wii. • Even though console loads are different, it's only a few seconds of difference on them whereas on emu it's way more because not everyone has a good PC, so you can get a huge timesave/loss just from that. This would make the board extremely unfair and once again cause unnecessary drama in the forums.

  • On emulator it's too easy to cheat. You can: •modify emulation settings •use modified version of the game • record inputs (which would be classified as a Tool-Assisted Speedrun, aka a TAS). If people are wondering, "Why not just make detailed rules about it???": • Because it will change nothing. Emu have still pretty huge advantages even if we have a ruleset about them.

So please can you stop creating threads about emulators on this game? We've had the discussion tons of times and the answer will remain the same. Emu is banned on the leaderboard and that's it. And for the 10000000th time "YOU 👏 DONT 👏 NEED 👏 A 👏 LEADERBOARD 👏 TO 👏 RUN 👏 SOMETHING ". If you want to submit your run on the boards but you don't have a Wii/Wii U and/or a disc, you can buy one, these things are pretty cheap nowadays.

Also, user Toogs has created an unofficial emu leaderboard. If you would like to run on emu you can submit your runs there. (Click here to view the sheet. ) • Even if this becomes popular, emu will not be allowed on the main leaderboard due to the inaccuracy of both console and emu loads.

(Credits to @DiamondcrafterA for improving this a bit)

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

(also nice timing dca lol)

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

First off this is Any% no W5, but yeah we do the same thing in Cannonless.

We do that to know the goomba placement before the run to make sure we'll got Goombaless (in other words, not beating the Goomba after 1-4). If the Goomba is top left at the start then it's a guaranteed goombaless because he move clockwise after each level.

But there's some details about this here: https://pastebin.com/Erp4vD6s

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

We've got this discussion in the past and it's not gonna happen.

Also taking the nsmbds leaderboard as your primary argument isn't enough to convince us. Each community is different and each community have they own point of view about emulator.

You're feel free to speedrun the game on emulator though, it's just you can't submit. Peoples tend to forget they don't need a category on the site to speedrun something.

Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

Video is required on the whole leaderboard so yes

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

It's now fixed

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

in 9-8 you can grab a propeller and use it in 9-5 because it's a vertical level.

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

It's kinda logic.

Plus that would be a huge mess if sub-games can have sub-games and these sub-games can have sub-games too. Like there's no end.

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

Low% in general on nsmb games isn't popular enough so that's why the category isn't on the boards.

But the category can be on the CE sheet managed by @Mchan338 if you do a run of it though. ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G7C8So7I3_Nd11MNhbE_8NHk8s6FO8sf1WB8DbJx4Rc/edit?usp=sharing )

Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

That's why these runs are rejected. For me it's kinda weird to be 5 mins away from Any% record but only 2 on All RE and not having a least 1 of the submissions with video to believe the other ones.

But otherwise I've nothing to correct DCA

Like I said on the reject message: "Video evidence would be nice to prove me wrong though."

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

Very good idea, I added the category as misc and submitted the run on your behalf.

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Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

No, these categories have no sense to be added there.

Pays de la Loire, FranceR0main5 years ago

Update:

I've timed loads to see how faster emu is against console, and I got the result of 8 secs approximately for 100%. I added the "Time with loads" column.

When submitting a run on emulator for 100%, put in "Time without loads" your actual time and add 8 secs in the "Time with loads" column.

For now we don't know for the other categories. We'll know once emu runs will be submitted there.

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