Gelderland, NetherlandsHey datprorebel, like Francesco said, right now the ruling on (video) proof is that only top 10 runs are required to show a video. Otherwise, feel free to show a picture of your In Game Time, but it's not mandatory.
@The_Dextroyer yes there is, using this guide https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/611h5e/guide_how_to_download_older_versions_of_a_game_on/ you should be able to download it.
For convenience sake, I've already prepared the command you need to put into the steam console: [quote]download_depot 268750 268751 4929923876853045082 : download a single depot[/quote]
Pretty much the whole mksc community is on the Players' Page, with last month having 15 active players. mksc gp speedruns come second to GP and never were the main focus. And if there are people interested in mksc coming from this website, they'll probably be interested enough to go through the resources or the forum.
There's already one right here http://www.mariokart64.com/mkdd/coursec.php where actually most MKDD people are active. I realize that the site looks really old (that's because it is) but it's still very active, getting 13 players to submit Time Trial times this week.
If you're doing cups: Add up the times it shows at the end of the run or check out the records section in the game. For 32 tracks: There's no need, just RTA. In fact it's pretty much impossible to do so without losing time unless you're recording it and then go back to count what times you got every track.
@Imaproshaman 32 tracks doesn't require any proof as of now, however you could send a screenshot of final time/splits in livesplit if you're using that while running.
As for the discord: I wasn't participating in that Discord so I have no idea if it's active still.
Hey everyone it's me and I've made a video on this cheating fraud
Then tell me what contribution that part of his message added, even though the whole message is incorrect anyway. It's unnecessary. And please, I'm not Lafungo's lap dog.
[quote]A video proof is the most basic thing that a gamer should submit in order to have any credibility at all[/quote] Image proof is, but I see your point. I never said that I wouldn't want to see videos. I'm explaining how Lafungo's times are legit, but it seems like you've turned around [quote]I know those times arent particularly hard to beat[/quote] Compared to [quote]The current 2nd place of the mushroom cup played a perfect run, he es even using NBT (New boosting techniques) which is really really hard to do.[/quote] so I'll let that slide. Video proof is not a rule of the community. Personally I enjoy seeing submissions with video, but it's not a neccessity.
[quote]And Goomba again you have no idea what you are talking about. PAL and NTCS DO run at different speeds. Why do you think mariokartplayers.com has two different categories? And for example why is the world record in Mario Circuit 1 in PAL 57.90 and in NTCS 55.97 by the same guy UK Champion Sami Cetin? If you would do even 10 minutes of research on the matter, you would stop embarrasing yourself.[/quote]
Ah, but if you actually read my post you could clearly read me saying:
[quote]There are a bunch of differences between PAL and NTSC[/quote] Drifting angles, speed, etc. There are a lot of factors different. What I was saying is that the timers run at the same speed, thus you don't lose RTA time when playing PAL during a race, thus Lafungo was correct saying it's about the track transitions that are slower.
[quote]PAL and NTCS DO run at different speeds. Why do you think mariokartplayers.com has two different categories?[/quote] MKDD Has 50hz, 60hz, and Combined. 50hz actually has the timer run at a slower speed than 60hz, yet the Combined Ranking is the main ranking.
[quote]If you would do even 10 minutes of research on the matter, you would stop embarrasing yourself.[/quote] ok
[quote]Really? Are we going to argue the same way people bicker at one another on youtube comments?[/quote] I'm merely going statement by statement with a bunch of sarcastic remarks which seemed to be enjoyed by both of us. You're participating in this as well as I am, so I don't know what point you're trying to make.
[quote]And that doesn't change even if your rebuttal is "Here we go again.".[/quote] Here we go again was based on the accusation of moderators with submitted times without video are fake. No video proof brings in a LOT of players. It's how I got into the MKDD scene and how many others have. Like I said above, I'm not against video proof, at the very least for the top score on the site. But it should not be mandatory. Should a moderator be forced to submit video proof? In my opinion, no. In your opinion: yes. It differs and I can't change anything about that.
[quote]Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Lafungo cheated; what I'm saying is that a reasonable level of evidence is expected not only from those who claim to hold a WR, but especially if said WR claim comes from a moderator, let alone the sole moderator of the game. If you can't agree that this expectation is reasonable, then I might as well call you Rudy.[/quote] I think the important fact that you are forgetting is that there was evidence that these two from Twin Galaxies cheated. However this is not the case for Lafungo. Besides, like I explained in my previous post, there's a lot of evidence in favor of Lafungo's legitimacy. Besides that, Lafungo's times are not WR.
[quote]You saying that I should disregard the leaderboard and run it in order to "prove that I care about the game" is absurd. If anything, mismanaging the board is not only a slap in the face to other runners, but it is a much, much more blatant display of that same carelessness you accuse me of.[/quote]
However Lafungo is not mismanaging this leaderboard, it's an opinion that should be checked by the entire community, not just the few people active in this thread right now. Is Lafungo legit? Yes. Does he have to upload videos as a mod? No. Would I want to see videos in the future? Sure.
Besides, what are you trying to say with the ZOMG, ur argument is invalid, memes, snafu, condescending facade, meming on? Is that really my tone, or are you just implying your own ideas of me?
[quote]As you can see in the leaderboard, If you are the moderator you can submit even world records without video proof. Not sure if thats posiblle if you are only an average gamer.[/quote]
There are multiple people without video on the leaderboards. It's perfectly allowed. There's no need to add your vendetta towards lafungo on any occasion you can find.
[quote]you are right goomba I should just shut up and accept what the ruler decides. I never said he is faking his times, I said they need to be proven, specially coming from the sole ruler. I thought that was the essence of the site, to PROVE how good you are. Oh well, keep ruling this as you see fit. Cheers.[/quote]
Video proof isn't mandatory on a lot of the leaderboards on speedrun.com. I'll refute this later in this post, but first let me respond to marth.sk.
[quote]Y'know who else was defended with the same "If you think he's faking it, if you question his performance, you're an idiot" rhetoric?
Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell. Geez, I wonder what became of them lately... If anyone knows, feel free to let me know. ?[/quote]
Ah, the classic fallacy to compare something that isn't the same. Just because you watched some Apollo Legend videos that talk about cheaters who had a high position in the rankings doesn't mean that's the case for anything here.
[quote]In an era where integrity is being scrutinized more than ever, the dismissal of pleas for more rigorous verification methods, much like we see being done in this thread, speaks volumes about how integrity is valued on this specific leaderboard.[/quote]
Here we go again.
[quote]Yeah, yeah, "Why do you care? You don't run this game anyway!"[/quote] I told him to play the game instead of stirring up stuff that is completely wrong and off base.
[quote]I'd say that given how this LB is being managed, I wouldn't even try to run that game.[/quote] If you don't want to run the game just because of the leaderboards, then you don't care as much about the game. Nothing is holding you back from running it, just run and don't submit
[quote]3. The community is asking for TT and they should be added as well as more moderators.[/quote]
The "community" you're speaking off are the random 5 people that have stumbled upon this forum on speedrun.com and ask for time trials because they don't know or don't care about the already existing leaderboards that actually have the full community on there. It's the main hub where everyone is. What's the point in making another leaderboard where you constantly have to say "Oh I'm number 2 here but in reality it's rank #259"
I will prove this to you by actually putting in some effort. First of all since you seem so intrigued by Todd Rogers, as you probably know Todd has been called out many times, having numorous fake records and very little back up for his skill in a considerable amount of games. Lafungo has a YouTube channel full of videos. Most of them are Mario Kart: Super Circuit, a game which is a lot like SMK. However, I've listed all of his SMK videos that are on this channel. These videos range back from 2012 to now. Here's a pastebin with links https://pastebin.com/X9mP3ND3 and his YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/Lafungo/videos
Besides that here are 2 tweets by KVD https://twitter.com/KarelvanD/status/962046780048207872 https://twitter.com/KarelvanD/status/962092943963238402
with Lafungo scoring some PRs at KVD's place.
Besides that he has been posting PRs over the years on the Player Page, playing at the SMK championships and working closely with the community. And yet you still compare him to Todd. You're saying that you require them to be proven. Let's start with a fun fact: KVD was the one who originally added SMK to speedrun.com, where he added NTSC + PAL combined and split 1P / 2P
Besides that, here's another fun quote [quote]I dont have to guess, I know for a fact that PAL and NTCS run at different speeds and a moderator should know that better than anyone. Yet Goomba acuse ME of not knowing what im talking about and stop my bitching.[/quote]
Ah, the fact that the games run at different speeds is correct. However, the in game timers run at the same speed in both PAL and RTA. So if you were to count the Real time from 1:10 IGT on Both PAL and NTSC, it's the same. There are a bunch of differences between PAL and NTSC, but those are irrelevant. KVD got a time that's 12 seconds faster IGT. So that would put his time faster than Lafungo. However, his RTA is still slower. Since RTA is the same on PAL and NTSC, this means he loses RTA time during the track transitions, like Lafungo mentioned.
[quote]I never said he is faking his times[/quote] [quote]You have 23 runs in defferent Mario Kart video games and ALL of your 1st places have no video. You dont have a single 1st place with a video proof, which is incredibly suspicious[/quote] Sure, you didn't directly call him out, but at least you questioned his legitimacy.
So the legitimacy of Lafungo should be fine then, right? We know his skill, we know his IGT is slower, and we know the reason why. So that's @marth.sk's part
[quote]What if I just start running the game and I send a 1st place, what guarantees me that you arent just gonna submit your own run beating mine by 1 second with no proof?[/quote] [quote]As you can see in the leaderboard, If you are the moderator you can submit even world records without video proof. Not sure if thats posiblle if you are only an average gamer.[/quote]
Chill out, your personal vendetta against Lafungo shouldn't affect your judgement
Right now I want to talk about PAL vs NTSC leaderboards and no video proof.
This is all up to the whole community to decide, primarily the active one and not the tide wave speedrun.com people. Lafungo won't make any sudden irrational changes just because a few people ask for it.
edit: formatting
Why add a leaderboard for Time Trials that will never be close to the actual rankings that are on the player page? Literally anyone who actually cares about the game will be going to the Player Page as they know that is where the community and the rankings are. Not here just to get a site record just because it got added over here.
If you 'wanted some say' then make valid points instead of requesting things that are completely useless or will never be competitive.
Lol you are ridiculously foolish if you believe Lafungo is faking his times or bending the rules to his favor. Stop being so stuck up about times not being proven and add to the community by making videos and getting better instead of bitching about something you don't know anything about
blaster's a-tech is still kinda bad. The tracks are decent for the blaster as there are no bumps but there's not really a point in using the blaster over the barrel train as there is no clear advantage.
Hello cmarkus,
At the top right there's a button called submit run. You claim you're top 12 based on the leaderboard, but I'll have to assume this is your actual In Game Time (IGT). This is the same time that is displayed in-game after completing the all cup tour (or cup).
The Real Time (RTA) is the main time ranking we use, which is mandatory. This is the timing from when you start the cup to when you cross the finish line. You can use an online stopwatch or the dedicated splitter. (See BananaSplit in the resources tab on the left)
So to submit a run, click that submit run button at the top right, select that you are player 1, input your times (With an IGT of let's say 35:30 your RTA if done optimally will be around 41:50. Be sure to fill those in correctly. Milliseconds for Real Time are not necessary.
Then put your region, platform, and whether or not you did the game on emulator or not.
You can put a picture in the description if you want to, however it is not required.
With all of that your time will have to be verified by me (I check this site pretty much every day so it shouldn't take more than 48h) (and if my guess is correct your time will be around rank #144)
Mirror, 50cc, and 100cc are terrible gimmicks. If you want to race it, go ahead. You can even submit to cyberscore if you want, but the leaderboards shouldn't be added here as they bring zero actual competition to the scene.
