Forums  /  Super Mario series  /  Super Mario Bros.  /  I found a way to save another framerule in 4-2
  iplaymario124iplaymario124

So, ironically enough, I was actually trying to do this, and I think it happened. So, doing a fast accel on the warp zone room in 4-2 results in a framerule being saved. At least, with the method of wall clipping I did in the run. I'm not entirely sure in this could help to get 4:54 or not. Here is the lnk to te video comparing the normal strat and the fast accel:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v48Cw9hAlHugHk-Tmnpos9yq2mYgcRWU/view?usp=sharing
Also, I am completely aware of the terrible quality.
Edit: Since nobody is reading this, I just want to say that the FAST ACCEL is the only hing I am focusing on. I am aware that I use an older method of wallclipping. I believe this saves the framerule with the normal method.

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  NathanAlmightyNathanAlmighty

Hmmm... This is actually a decent find. I don't know if it will be viable enough to save another framerule consistently.

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  iplaymario124iplaymario124

yeah, fast accels are hard. But don't they use one in 8-4 in like every wr run within the past like 1 or 2 years?

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  zsjetu9zsjetu9

are you sure it wasn't just that one of them didn't save the regular fast 4-2 framerule and one of them did?
happylee and jonny's method of doing lightspeed 4-2 were insanely hard, and required so much crazy stuff in it, more than this

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  B1GEY3DPYTH0NB1GEY3DPYTH0N

Yeah what was done in the vid doesn't look even close to being fast enough for light speed framerule lul.

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  TwisterCuberTwisterCuber

I compared it to somewes' .796 and it is the same speed.

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  iplaymario124iplaymario124

okay that's fine like I said, because I wasn't 100% sure if it did or not. But it saves the framerule in the method I did. Aside from the fast accel, the runs are 100% the same in the first room.

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  HasauceHasauce

Try comparing it with wes’s 4:55

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  FaZeEnderCreeper

Wasn’t this wallcilp already done before

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  FaZeEnderCreeper

This won’t help get a 4:54 but maybe a faster 4:55

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  RoyLTRoyLT

yeah this clip was the original version of Blazit that was used by AndrewG back when 2 bump fast 4-2 was the go to. Its actually slower than the current Wallclip. Also entering the pipe in 375 should have been a dead giveaway that this wasn't as fast as Blazit. A Fast accel at best saves 2 frames when done perfectly and we are far from 2 frames away from saving the next framerule even with the best wallclip anyone has done.

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  danielbatmanjdanielbatmanj

how many frames are actually needed to save the framerule from a good wallclip

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  RoyLTRoyLT

The fastest I've heard someone get is 4-8 to the warpzone which is about 10 frames away from the minimum to get the framrule with a perfect warpzone without fast accel. So 8 frames with a perfect fast accel.

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  RoyLTRoyLT

Guys I dont know if you realize it but we pretty much got this 30 year old game figured out. I'd be impressed to find anything new that would save anytime in the game. Really it's all about being more consistent at what is known now.

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  ImDangerous20ImDangerous20

Actually, Darbian got a 4-9 Entering Warpzone: , but yes your point still stands, 9 frames away minimum to get the framerule.

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  iplaymario124iplaymario124

You guys don't understand. It is the fast accel in the warp zone room i'm talking about. The clip is just the one I use okay?

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  Lul_ecks_deeLul_ecks_dee

If you do the HappyLee method clip, you can save another framerule without fast accel.
If you use the 2 bump method but the really fast variation (executing at absolute perfection) you can get 8-F and then you will need double fast accels to save the framerule

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  rossyenerichrossyenerich

So you need what KingOf_JonnyBoy did, plus two fast accels to get the lightspeed 4-2?

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