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I would like to hear everyone's opinion on this matter
The more details the better

raymondamantiusraymondamantius and Mars02Mars02 like this. 

Tottaly possible, but only if someone put years of work into it, the only problem is the 4-2 framerule, that wasn't ever done still today, only a slow version of the clip part of the framerule by Kriller, I can see the 8-1 TAS framerule being used, and a much better 8-4 but 4-2 is yet to come. In my opinion I think it will be possible on the near future, unless we find a easier way of getting the 4-2 framerule, it's gonna take some time to even be done on practice, and then more time for it to be used on runs, and then much more time to get a succesful run with all those framerules being saved and then getting a very good 8-4.

SuperSpeedRunnerSuperSpeedRunner, QuivicoQuivico and 7 others like this. 

Or maybe if somehow people got consistent at 8-2 extra framerule save, we could also see it done in runs

sweatypiranhasweatypiranha, raymondamantiusraymondamantius and Lul_ecks_deeLul_ecks_dee like this. 

I say no - unless qualitatively new strategies come up. But... I said 4:55 wouldn't happen by a human. And it's happened by two, so...

totoltotol, sweatypiranhasweatypiranha and 2 others like this. 

I mean 4:54 is already proven to be possible but it's very safe to say a human will never achieve such a time with current knowledge. The extra 4-2 framerule is just too hard for a human to pull off at all, let alone on a WR pace run. The extra 8-2 framerule also isn't gonna happen. I'd say without a doubt that a low 4:55 is the human limit and the WR will never get lower than that unless new strats are somehow found.

totoltotol, Gizmo98Gizmo98 and 13 others like this. 

I could definitely see someone in the distant future pulling off the 8-1 framerule save in a run, so I believe that a low 4:55 will eventually happen, but the 4-2 framerule save is likely going to never happen - HappyLee's method is just ridiculous and KingOf_JonnyBoy's method looks potentially too hard to be done in runs as it's just 2 bump 4-2 with fast accels and an even faster pipe stop

totoltotol, sweatypiranhasweatypiranha and 3 others like this. 

If talking about single-segment, it is not possible, but honestly, 4:55 and 4:56 are also not possible, so maybe we will see another miracle.

Lul_ecks_deeLul_ecks_dee likes this. 

@zdoroviy_antonyzdoroviy_antony I'm a little confused, there are 11 people that have gotten 4:56 and better as of today, what do you mean 4:55 and 4:56 are not possible?

Mars02Mars02 likes this. 

@Mars02Mars02 he was saying 11 people have gotten "4:56 and better" including 4:55.

Lul_ecks_deeLul_ecks_dee and Mars02Mars02 like this. 

But it is. I think, if I understand "single segment" correctly.


It's possible, please lock this thread. The answers will not be any different than previous answers. Yes, it is humanly possible to get a 4:54, but it is quite improbable with the current strats.

totoltotol, sweatypiranhasweatypiranha and 2 others like this. 

@SuperSpeedRunnerSuperSpeedRunner This thread does not need to be locked, there is nothing getting out of hand. I want to see as many opinions as possible here, and see how many people believe it's possible and how many people believe it's impossible.

NovawolfNovawolf, sweatypiranhasweatypiranha and 7 others like this. 

@Lul_ecks_deeLul_ecks_dee I meant that current top speedruns of SMB are so hard that I don't bealive they are done without a miracle. I don't bealive human's skills can do any if them