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What means "equipmentless"? I dont know if that name fits to this "category", but I still dont get better name for it. Its category, where you must start without anything. No primary and secondary weapons, no support weapons and no items. But not only this. Here are list, what you can and cannot do/use: - You can't start with Primary and Secondary weapons, Support weapons and items. - You can use everything you will find DURING mission (Weapons and vehicles) but you CAN'T prepare anything before mission (like stole a vehicle or use supply drop before mission) Why it should be added to categories? "Equipmentless" is totally different with this. You must find new (usually harder) way to complete mission as fastest as you can. I think this is what is missing in leaderboards, that extreme category which is does not resemble to the others. I made runs to prove difference between existing categories. It's a "new" way of playing. Also I agree with adding rules like "Disable HUD" or "Disable crosshair" to make it even harder. MISSION 3 MISSION 5 MISSION 7 MISSION 10 MISSION 13 |
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Mine runs are slow, that's because I'm the first who tried it. I believe it can be done more faster and I can't imagine what would players invent. I understand your "no", it's okay. I know this is not fitting to the all levels but in these missions can be an exception for example Mission 1, where you must start with buddy (horse) or Mission 12, where you must use helicopter to attack, so it can be done "Equipmentless" with these exceptions. Camo is equipment, but it don't gives any benefit (some HUGE benefit). Rules can be modified, the point is still the same: Start without anything. I still believe It's much interesting to add it. My opinion 🙂 |
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Right, but then we’re getting into altering the rule set for some missions because it doesn’t make it possible otherwise. Sorry, but it’s not a viable category in my opinion. |
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Ok, then we still must wait what about moderators. I hope they will understand why I want to add it 🙂 . |
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Well, you’re speaking with one now. I’ll consult with the other mods and see what they say. I think OCM already answered you before and didn’t seem too bothered one way or another? |
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...... I now understand why MGS:V speedrunning is almost dead. Just you, the mods, doing what only YOU want. I just suggested "classic" category, this category is in many games, that one hardcore category. Im tired of rushing everything with Raiden on Walker gear, thats not interesting, it is in every category. Its funny how someone tried to make a change (Only one category, not big change anyway) in half-dead game and mods are againist of this idea... I thought mods of this great game are motivated to push speedrunning of this game to the limits, it is "Tactical Espionage Action", no "Walker Gear Racing"! Some challenge guys, not hyped, only me? Damn, okay, you're the mods by the way, Im just "Hyped Runner" then. So guys, that's my opinion. If category will be added or not, thats up to you. By the way, I will CONTINUE in my "dream" equipmentless category, no matter if I will be 20 minutes behind WR, I really enjoy that way of playing and sadly, you don't see this in same way. If you enjoy this, then it's everything ok 🙂 . Have fun! |
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The category had been added as a misc for the time being. I will review the popularity in the next couple of weeks, but should it remain that only you post runs to it, then I’ll remove it again. I’m not big on having too many categories, especially empty ones. you can work with me and the other mods on deciding on some fair rules for the category. |
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You know guys, how much you suprised me? 😃 . Mods of other games are sometimes SUPER aggressive and dont know about the whole game and speedrunning nothing. I will be 2 days out, then I'll prepare something 🙂 I was thinking about that No Traces category. If you hate too many categories, what about to edit No Traces? Problem is, OCM already did a lot of runs and results will be that his runs will be invalid, so not great idea then. I want it merge together, like No Traces with this rules, but forget it. Are exceptions allowed? Like small exceptions, in 1 Mission you must start with horse, of course, you can leave him, so it can be did it like "You cant use buddy, horse". Let me just adjust it, I dont want to make it unfinished. |
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Rules [WIP] [Edited 3rd April] INFO: EQUIPMENT [Sortie Prep]: GAMEPLAY: EXCEPTIONS [To meet mission requirements in some missions]: If you found some mistake, let me know. 🙂 |
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I know more about this game than anyone else here. Taking off or editing no traces will never happen and if it did I'd drop from mods. I actually asked for a long time for that category to be added and did countless runs before it was added. No Traces doesn't need to have any more rules because it is an actual mission bonus score. As for adding naked I was against. I feel as though we covered the basis of the game without it becoming too over complicated. But if the mods agreed to add it than that's fine. These are a bunch of rules and I wonder how many people will actually be turned away due to that. I'm not sure why you must dismiss the horse if you just don't use him but I guess it'd dq it. Either way I hope you continue tp submit the runs for this category. |
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Dismiss horse is about 2 seconds and a few clicks. Anyway, ok, it doesnt need to be dismissed, you cant start first mission without horse so people can think "Oh, i can use him". Prologue is equipmentless, so every run met requirements for this category. Rules are still WIP and I'm sure it will be written more better than now. I'm working to make run for every mission in this category, I made few missions but not with good time, only Mission 3. |
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I love this idea |
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It's already created under name "Subsistence". |