What means "equipmentless"? I dont know if that name fits to this "category", but I still dont get better name for it.
Its category, where you must start without anything. No primary and secondary weapons, no support weapons and no items. But not only this. Here are list, what you can and cannot do/use:
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You can't start with Primary and Secondary weapons, Support weapons and items.
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You can't start with Buddy and Vehicle.
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You can't play as Raiden or Cyborg Ninja and can't wear Bandana (also Infinity Bandana) or Parasite suit
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You can't use Supply drops, Buddy supports, Fire supports and Helicopter supports (Helicopter ONLY for pickup)
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You must disable "Reflex mode"
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You can use everything you will find DURING mission (Weapons and vehicles) but you CAN'T prepare anything before mission (like stole a vehicle or use supply drop before mission)
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You can wear any clothes you like (except these what i mentioned above)
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You can play as Snake or Mother Base Soldier (With Snake you can use ONLY Bionic Arm, no matter if stock, silver or gold)´
Why it should be added to categories? Well, Any% is classic, you can use everything you want. Any% S - Rank is the same like Any% but you can't use some items. All tasks let you use everything you want, like any% but you must complete all tasks. Perfect Stealth, no kills, again, you can use everything like in All tasks and Any%. No Traces, pretty similar like Any%, All tasks and Perfect stealth, no kills. So you are able to fill up to 4 categories with one run. It let you use OP items that make runs very easy and monotonously way to play every category.
"Equipmentless" is totally different with this. You must find new (usually harder) way to complete mission as fastest as you can. I think this is what is missing in leaderboards, that extreme category which is does not resemble to the others.
I made runs to prove difference between existing categories. It's a "new" way of playing. Also I agree with adding rules like "Disable HUD" or "Disable crosshair" to make it even harder.
MISSION 3
MISSION 5
MISSION 7
MISSION 10
MISSION 13
Mine runs are slow, that's because I'm the first who tried it. I believe it can be done more faster and I can't imagine what would players invent. I understand your "no", it's okay. I know this is not fitting to the all levels but in these missions can be an exception for example Mission 1, where you must start with buddy (horse) or Mission 12, where you must use helicopter to attack, so it can be done "Equipmentless" with these exceptions. Camo is equipment, but it don't gives any benefit (some HUGE benefit). Rules can be modified, the point is still the same: Start without anything. I still believe It's much interesting to add it. My opinion :)
Ok, then we still must wait what about moderators. I hope they will understand why I want to add it :) .
...... I now understand why MGS:V speedrunning is almost dead. Just you, the mods, doing what only YOU want. I just suggested "classic" category, this category is in many games, that one hardcore category. Im tired of rushing everything with Raiden on Walker gear, thats not interesting, it is in every category. Its funny how someone tried to make a change (Only one category, not big change anyway) in half-dead game and mods are againist of this idea... I thought mods of this great game are motivated to push speedrunning of this game to the limits, it is "Tactical Espionage Action", no "Walker Gear Racing"! Some challenge guys, not hyped, only me? Damn, okay, you're the mods by the way, Im just "Hyped Runner" then.
So guys, that's my opinion. If category will be added or not, thats up to you. By the way, I will CONTINUE in my "dream" equipmentless category, no matter if I will be 20 minutes behind WR, I really enjoy that way of playing and sadly, you don't see this in same way. If you enjoy this, then it's everything ok :) . Have fun!
You know guys, how much you suprised me? :D . Mods of other games are sometimes SUPER aggressive and dont know about the whole game and speedrunning nothing. I will be 2 days out, then I'll prepare something :)
I was thinking about that No Traces category. If you hate too many categories, what about to edit No Traces? Problem is, OCM already did a lot of runs and results will be that his runs will be invalid, so not great idea then. I want it merge together, like No Traces with this rules, but forget it.
Are exceptions allowed? Like small exceptions, in 1 Mission you must start with horse, of course, you can leave him, so it can be did it like "You cant use buddy, horse". Let me just adjust it, I dont want to make it unfinished.
Rules [WIP] [Edited 3rd April]
INFO: You must complete mission fastest as you can and start without anything. What you'll find it's up to you.
EQUIPMENT [Sortie Prep]:
- No Primary Weapons
- No Secondary Weapons NOTE #1: Prosphetic arm allowed: Bionic Arm, Bionic arm (silver) and Bionic arm (gold) NOTE #2: Primary (Hip) and Secondary weapon you cant unequip without mod. You are allowed to equip these weapons but you are not allowed to use. Just find another weapon during mission and swap it.
- No Buddy allowed
- No Vehicle allowed
- Raiden, Cyborg Ninja, Parasite Suit Uniforms not allowed NOTE: Tuxedo is allowed WITHOUT Bandana and Infinity Bandana.
- Tools allowed
- Snake and Mother Base Soldiers allowed
GAMEPLAY:
- Supply Drop not allowed
- Buddy Support not allowed
- Fire Support not allowed
- Helicopter (Air Support) not allowed
- Reflex Mode must be disabled
- Helicopter (Pick Up) allowed
- ALL weapons, vehicles found during mission you can use
- You can start from ACC or Free Roam mode NOTE: You can't prepare anything before starting missions (like stole a vehicle before mission)
EXCEPTIONS [To meet mission requirements in some missions]: Mission 0 - Prologue: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 1 - Phantom Limbs: You MUST dismiss D-Horse after the starting cutscene. Mission 2 - Diamond Dogs: You can use primary and secondary weapon, supply drop too. Mission 3 - A Hero's Way: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 4 - C2W: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 5 - Over the Fence: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 6 - Where Do the Bees Sleep: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 7 - Red Brass: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 8 - Occupation Forces: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 9 - Backup Back Down: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 10 - Angel With Broken Wings: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 11 - Cloaked in Silence: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 12 - Hellbound: You can use helicopter's minigun to shoot at Sahelanthropus Mission 13- Pitch Dark: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 14 - Lingua Franca: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 15 - Footprints of Phantoms: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 16 - Traitors Caravan: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 17 - Rescue the Intel Agents: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 18 - Blood Runs Deep: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 19 - On the Trail: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 20 - Voices: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 21 - The War Economy: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 22 - Retake the Platform: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 23 - The White Mamba: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 24 - Close Contact: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 25 - Aim True Ye Vengeful: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 26 - Hunting Down: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 27 - Root Cause: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 28 - Code Talker: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 29 - Metallic Archaea: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 30 - Skull Face: NO EXCEPTIONS Mission 31 - Sahelanthropus: NO EXCEPTIONS
If you found some mistake, let me know. :)
I know more about this game than anyone else here. Taking off or editing no traces will never happen and if it did I'd drop from mods. I actually asked for a long time for that category to be added and did countless runs before it was added. No Traces doesn't need to have any more rules because it is an actual mission bonus score. As for adding naked I was against. I feel as though we covered the basis of the game without it becoming too over complicated. But if the mods agreed to add it than that's fine. These are a bunch of rules and I wonder how many people will actually be turned away due to that. I'm not sure why you must dismiss the horse if you just don't use him but I guess it'd dq it. Either way I hope you continue tp submit the runs for this category.
Dismiss horse is about 2 seconds and a few clicks. Anyway, ok, it doesnt need to be dismissed, you cant start first mission without horse so people can think "Oh, i can use him". Prologue is equipmentless, so every run met requirements for this category. Rules are still WIP and I'm sure it will be written more better than now. I'm working to make run for every mission in this category, I made few missions but not with good time, only Mission 3. EDIT: Noone wants to edit No traces, since mods made new category, thinks are easier.
