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Prologue: Awakening
Mission 01 Phantom Limbs
Mission 02 Diamond Dogs
Mission 03 A Hero's Way
Mission 04 C2W
Mission 05 Over the Fence
Mission 06 Where do the Bees Sleep?
Mission 07 Red Brass
Mission 08 Occupation Forces
Mission 09 Backup, Back Down
Mission 10 Angel with Broken Wings
Mission 11 Cloaked in Silence
Mission 12 Hellbound
Mission 13 Pitch Dark
Mission 14 Lingua Franca
Mission 15 Footprints of Phantoms
Mission 16 Traitors' Caravan
Mission 17 Rescue the Intel Agents
Mission 18 Blood Runs Deep
Mission 19 On the Trail
Mission 20 Voices
Mission 21 The War Economy
Mission 22 Retake the Platform
Mission 23 The White Mamba
Mission 24 Close Contact
Mission 25 Aim True, Ye Vengeful
Mission 26 Hunting Down
Mission 27 Root Cause
Mission 28 Code Talker
Mission 29 Metallic Archaea
Mission 30 Skull Face
Mission 31 Sahelanthropus
Mission 32 To Know Too Much
Mission 33 C2W (Subsistence)
Mission 34 Backup, Back Down (Extreme)
Mission 35 Cursed Legacy
Mission 36 Footprints of Phantoms (Total Stealth)
Mission 37 Traitors' Caravan (Extreme)
Mission 38 Extraordinary
Mission 39 Over the Fence (Total Stealth)
Mission 40 Cloaked in Silence (Extreme)
Mission 41 Proxy War Without End
Mission 42 Metallic Archaea (Extreme)
Mission 43 Shining Lights, Even in Death
Mission 44 Pitch Dark (Total Stealth)
Mission 45 A Quiet Exit
Mission 46 Truth: The Man Who Sold the World
Mission 47 The War Economy (Total Stealth)
Mission 48 Code Talker (Extreme)
Mission 49 Occupation Forces (Subsistence)
Mission 50 Sahelanthropus (Extreme)
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So it's been now 20 or 30 full game runs for me. I know that most of you don't really care that much about Full Game runs but still your voice matter. I was wondering of what you would be thinking of skipping the prologue in "NG+ all mission <<Insert category restriction>> " runs has we happend to do it in mission 46 anyway. Pros: It allow runners to restart more often and offer an higher end quality run because they don't have to sit through the 15minutes of the prologue at every single reset. Cons: You can be faster, or you can bee slower in Prologue 00 so it has to be part of the All missions run. Please tell me what you think about this matter. |
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I'm not running this category so I don't have much say in this, but the prologue is so boring and handholdy and not fun to watch either, so I'd say off with it. |
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Entropy4Entropy4
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Well, if it's "All Mission," technically the Prologue isn't a mission. If we're going to get into semantics. I'm fine with eliminating it from NG+ runs. Needs to stay on any% runs though. |
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Thanks for your input guys. Hope other people also voice their opinion. That's really important. And as i said Basler (Not fun to do, not fun to watch, little to no improvement possible) i don't think prologue is good in anyway. It's long for no real reason. It got basicly 2 trick to make it 10 secondes faster and they are hard to messed up. @Entropy4 you meant NG rather than Any% right ? ^^ Yes in NG it has to be there since this is really the start of the run. As for NG+ we would just switch the starting mission / timer from accepting prologue to Selecting ASAP in MO 01. |
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Entropy4Entropy4
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Yes, by any% I meant new games. |
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your_name_hereyour_name_here
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Is there any reason why you have to do the missions in order? I mean, it sucks having to do the prologue twice in one run, but it would probably be a lot better if you didn't have to play for 15 minutes before you got to somewhere where you might reset. |
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I agree with bre3zeR Technically the prolog isn't a mission. There's no reason to have to do a tedious tutorial like that in NG+. As someone who is practicing to do full mission runs I vote nay for the "prolog". I want to run NG at some point and although I'm going to hate doing the prolog I think it should be mandatory for that category. Unless there's a way around it for NG. |
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since its NG+, you have all missions unlocked. you should just do the missions in order from hardest to easiest. this means the prologue is not right at the start and is not an obnoxious waste of time while getting to the hard parts of runs like it is in NG any% EDIT: this is just to say prologue doesnt have to be the start of NG+ any%, not whether or not it should be, but if one of the main arguments against it being in is that it takes that much more time to get to the real run, it doesnt have to since its NG+ |
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Thanks for your input @MHypno Also to @your_name_here & Naegleria I always say on stream that i'm lazy, and i do not wish to reroute the entire game to do mission out of the order. And that one day, one dude will come with a reroute and take the WR because of it. (I will let that up to someone, and use his work when someone come up with a route that is out of order.) Most of the time it would be faster to travel 100 to 300 meters and start another mission (out of the order(There is even 6 missions in the game when done in the order allow you to start from the ground(9>10, 11>12, 41>42))) to gain some time. Chopper starting scene does take around 20 to 30 secondes depending on the mission. But once again that isn't the question here. OneHand All i wish to know is do poeple think that we should do the prologue(MO 00) or not ? Ps: Also do you really found / Think that would be intresting to have 5 hard missions(22, 6, then the extreme ver of missions) at the start of the run then a slowly dying run in term of execution and overall intrest in variety of level ? (2 time prologue at the end, with MO 14, and probably others mission that basicly just ask you to go from point A to point B.) The flow of the game as it's right now (Done in the numerical order) is great to run, great to watch. Got his hard part at the start, middle, and at the end. this balance is great for the entertaiment purpose. Not for the speed i would admit that. So yeah, the only reason i don't start by the hardest mission, is to run the game as it's intended (Numerical Order) because on top of that it make it more intresting to watch. |
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dekukingdekuking
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i think ng+ runs shouldnt contain the prologue , its basically a cutscene and takes pretty much the same amount of time everytime |
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skippyy13skippyy13
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I don't think removing a mission because you find it boring is a good excuse at all. Saying it is basicly a cut-scene is incorrect as it does have gameplay and its even possible to fail. Its arguable that mission 2 has less gameplay inside of it and I cannot see anyone trying to argue that it isn't a mission. Nothing is stopping people from doing runs without doing mission 0 but calling it All Mission Ng+ would just be incorrect. You also have to consider it would stop people finding new tricks and times saves that may be applicable to the mission. |
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Remove it for NG+ aside from 46 i guess. You obviously cant skip it on new files. |
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Yup. So since nobody voice against it we will from now on remove 00 in NG+ All mission. For all the reason said above. |
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