Dream finally admits to cheating
2 years ago

Dream posted a second Pastebin which was a lot more mature. He's still lying about the "oh, it was an accident and I had no idea for months!" thing, and this response doesn't vindicate his initial response, but I appreciate him improving on his tone.

Also, this forum clearly needs some tougher moderation. Even if this forum has a lot of kids, I would expect better behavior.

https://pastebin.com/F76HAfy0

[quote=Dream]I thought I would write up this apology to the speedrun community / discord / mod team, as my document I posted on my twitter was more of an explanation than an apology and I felt the need to more directly apologize.

--- Speedrun Mods ---

I have spoken to many of the speedrun moderators in private and apologized in the past and recently for my behaviors back when the speedrun drama was going on. Although I won't make the specifics of these apologies public, I will directly apologize to them here. I'm sorry to the mod team for causing a shitstorm on Twitter and Youtube and elsewhere with my aggressive and condescending tweets and language. I have explained my mindset during the time period, but that doesn't justify or excuse any of my actions or words. I am truly sorry for the way that I reacted and wish that I could have controlled my emotions better. I'm sorry for any negative things this may have caused for you, I accept responsibility for not doing everything that I could have to prevent them. I can explain my mindset during these situations, but intention is not as important when there was a negative outcome due to my actions. I'm sorry, and I want to continue to make it up to the mod team in any way that I can.

I believe that Geosquare deserves my biggest apologies. I've spoken to Geosquare since, and we have made up with each other and are on good terms, I will not make the contents of our discussions public however I will apologize to him directly here. I'm sorry for the way that I acted towards you, as under no circumstances is that kind of behavior okay. Tweeting out for millions to see calling you a clout chaser and accusing your intentions of being vindictive couldn't have done anything but cause harm. I regret essentially everything that I said to you in private, and in public in the speedrun discord or in tweets. I was full of anger and fear and I let these emotions get the best of me while not at all caring about the effect my actions would have on you as an individual. Although this was almost a year ago, I'm sure that you still face problems today due to the size of my audience and the harshness of my words. I apologize and I want to make it up to you in any way that I can. Since this issue I have made an effort to better control my negative emotions, and be more clear and direct about avoiding hate and harassment. I hope that these are things that can be noticed, and that I can continue to improve upon. Having a large audience means you have to be responsible with it, and I wasn't at all during the situation in December. I am sorry and although you have said you have forgiven me, I still feel terrible and hope that we can better our relationship going forward.

--- Speedrun Community ---

As a Youtuber, I always felt like a bit of an outsider to the speedrun community. I tried my best to promote top runners and make friends with speedrunners and participate in discussions in the discord and elsewhere. I tried to involve the community in competitions, and I tried to do my best to assist the mods with cleaning up the leaderboard from cheaters. I really wanted to be a part of the community because it was something that I loved doing and I really became attached to it. Even before the speedrun drama, there was an instance where I falsely accused a popular runner "Couriway" of cheating. There was a misunderstanding and I jumped the gun in saying something in their Twitch chat about doubts that I had regarding their recent run. I don't think I ever got a chance to apologize to them, so I just want to do so here. I'm sorry Couriway for incorrectly accusing you of cheating. I completely understand how that must have felt and I am extremely sorry. I should never have said something in your Twitch chat, and I should have completely left it up to the mods to do their jobs. I regret this and I regret not having apologized to you sooner. I won't attempt to justify my actions here, but I have added you back on discord and if you would like to chat more about it I am completely willing.

As for to the community, I know that due to this situation being one of the biggest dramas that Minecraft has ever had, it brought a lot of hate and strife to the community. I contributed directly to this by arguing with people in the discord and on twitter, and fueled fans of mine by saying hateful things. I am sorry for this. I understand being doubtful of my explanation, and don't think it's unreasonable to assume that I am being dishonest. While I was not aware that I was running any disallowed modifications, that is completely my fault. I should have been much more reasonable and level headed and done my duty as someone submitting a run to the leaderboards. I explained my mindset during this situation in the other paste, but I want to make it clear that it was not at all a justification or a way of excusing the things that I said or did. Although I believe that there was poor communication on both sides, at the end of the day it is completely my responsibility to make sure that any run I submit has integrity and I failed to do so. I was completely in the wrong, and I argued like an idiot for months not wanting to even explore the fact that I could be. I tunnel visioned and because of that, I ended up arguing an unintentional lie and causing harm to people who were just trying to be fair. This could have been for many reasons, but I blame my ego and the fact that sometimes I just can't accept when I'm wrong. There is no one to blame but myself, and I take responsibility for that. The way I used my influence while saying negative and aggression provoking things was not okay at all and something that I am ashamed of. Since almost a year ago, I have been doing my best to reflect on this and improve as a creator that is new to the spotlight. I have nothing but respect for the mod team, speedrunners and the speedrun community. You are not obligated to forgive me or to accept my apology in any way, but I am sorry for the damage that I caused and wish that I could go back and change the way things went. I like to think that I have had a positive impact on Minecraft speedrunning overall, but that's wishful thinking including the stain that this situation put on the community. I am sorry.

I took all of my runs that I have ever submitted down from speedrun.com personally myself, including the ones that were still up and verified. I also messaged a member of the mod team requesting that I be banned from submitting runs in the future even though I was told before that this wouldn't happen. I think that is a fair result, and I have no plans on submitting runs in the future and haven't since October of last year and since my run was removed. I never intended any harm to the community and I still want the speedrun community to flourish as much as it can. I pledged to donate money I made from the response video to speedrunning, and I did to a live speedrunning tournament that featured a lot of the top runners last month, Break The Record Live. One of my goals since joining the community was to try and help speedrunners turn speedrunning from a hobby into a livable job, and I tried to accomplish that by frequently raiding, donating to, and bringing up runners throughout the community. I still plan to do that, and although I know money doesn't show intentions, I would like to pledge an additional $50,000, that I will be donating to speedrunners of all sizes from the Minecraft community on Twitch over the next month or so.

The reason that I decided to make the post that I did the other day was to provide closure to the community on an issue that should have been resolved almost a year ago. I hope that this accomplishes that if even a little bit. Again, I am sorry to the mod team and the community for all the problems that came from this drama and hope to continue improving as an individual.

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neat so there is it he cheated maybe on prupose, maybe not... but he cheated, and nothing more change with that there is nothing to discuse about this and there is no sense on discusing about discussing this so now we can stop discussing about discusing if we should discuss now pls close this and dont start discussing about the point of discussing about discussing if we should discuss about that

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close the forum mods, my notifs are dying.. someone tell how to turn them off

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Settings

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New Jersey, USA

Noice

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@NouNou well, that's a theory. You have 0 proof that he did it intentionally. So keep your "opinions" out of facts. Yes. he did "cheat". Whether it was intentional or not doesn't matter anymore so idk why you'd bring it up unless you're trying to be toxic. So, how about you hush and let people form their own opinions before you tell them it's fake.

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Since the mods don't wanna lock the thread, could everyone not bump the thread..

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We knew he was cheating this whole time so there was no point for this forum in the first place...

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i thought we were over thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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@Griefless agreed

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[quote=Griefless]@NouNou well, that's a theory. You have 0 proof that he did it intentionally. So keep your "opinions" out of facts. Yes. he did "cheat". Whether it was intentional or not doesn't matter anymore so idk why you'd bring it up unless you're trying to be toxic. So, how about you hush and let people form their own opinions before you tell them it's fake.[/quote]

For me personally, it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There are way too many holes in his story, and between choosing between doing what an innocent person would do and a guilty person would do he has repeatedly chosen the guilty option with conviction. Just like there is a one in a trillion chance Dream would get the drops he did without cheating, there is a one in a trillion chance Dream didn't do this with intent.

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5 pages already wtf

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My favorite bird is a triangle what about yours?

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I saw Timeworks's video about it. Here's the video:

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PSA: You can disable notifications from forum threads! https://www.speedrun.com/USERNAME/settings/notifications

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actualy, at this point almost the whole thread is just about people complaining because of bringing back the topic everyone just speaks about how anoying is that we make notifications all the times but we just create more notifications complaining about the topic almost nobody is sending now things about dream this is so hypocrite if you guys hate spamming this topic just stop spamming about stopping it no one realiced that in the past days there where like 3 messages relationated to the topic and 40 complaining about the topic lmao

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Just turn off forum post notifications

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