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NetherlandsoddRaven7 years ago

[quote]Yes, it works, CJ is teleported out of the car if you park near the lamppost. But I don't know how to take control in the cutscene and this trick doesn't save any time.[/quote]

At 1:40

The cutscenes are really weird and inconsistent in this game.

NetherlandsoddRaven7 years ago

Here is the comparison BibleThump

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NetherlandsoddRaven7 years ago

Took me a while to get at least 3 decent tries. I don't recommend actually doing this in a run. If I feel like it, I'll try to figure out something to get it consistently.

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

[quote]1. Driving with both hands on keyboard / keyboard + mouse ?[/quote]

Driving with the keyboard, looking around with the mouse.

[quote]Do you despawn the traffic manually with mouse or do you press some key ? [/quote]

Manually with the mouse/camera.

[quote]2. Riding a bike Keyboard settings for that ? if I drive using ASDW I am unable to go fast because I am somehow unable to mash W rapidly (Guess the answer for this one is me being bad) [/quote]

I personally like to bind my back and forward buttons of my mouse to left and right (besides A and D). This way I can freely mash W and keep changing direction.

[quote]3. Brake / Handbrake One is set to S, the other one to Spacebar. If I want to get gold Burn and Lap in driving school I need to switch it otherwise I am unable to do it So what are the settings for brakes ? [/quote]

Space is brake, S is driving backwards, for me at least. Also note that Driving School is not required for Any% (I assume you want to run this category).

[quote]4. UP/DOWN on bike Settings ? [/quote]

I use left shift and ctrl, look it up in the options.

I'd suggest you just try out stuff and see what works for you.

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

Install the dev build of LiveSplit if you want to try the AutoSplitter. LiveSplit 1.6.8-77 did it for me.

http://livesplit.org/LiveSplitDevBuild.zip

AutoSplitter works well for the parts I tested so far SeemsGood .

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

Alright, what about the cutscene skips with certain keyboards?

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

I have been using the program Virtual Audio Cable to have the game audio and music on a different line. For some reason there is a bug(?) where the program will speed up certain programs with audio. I have had it with YouTube videos and Twitch vods on Firefox in the past. But today it happened while playing San Andreas.

At some parts it seems to speed up the segments, except for the Against all Odds cutscene.

Decided to make a separate thread because Tirean also once said it was possible to menu skip the Nines and AKs cutscenes with certain keyboards. If someone has more information on what keyboards this applies to, please post in this thread, that would be useful.

Is it allowed to use external tools as they do not modify the game? External frame limiters are allowed for GTA IV as well.

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

Can you make the OP more clear on what this thread is about, how the route works, why it's useful?

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

[quote]Why do you slow down so much in left? You can use the building to break your turn and almost not brake at all[/quote] Doesn't hitting the wall slow down the car? I can make a new video if the comparison is not fair enough. Figured the right would be faster because you go oblique and have more room on the second turn.

Not sure yet what the best spot is to aim to, could be consistent if we knew. Also consider your timing if you want to try this (getting on the building, getting off the bike, get in position, aim, shoot).

I did some more testing, trying to reproduce and failed. Headshotted him a few times with the sniper rifle, killed him but the train didn't stop. So I assume the train only stops when you kill him by shooting his body.

Taking the ramp is faster and probably easier until I found a way to one shot him consistently.

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

[quote]Left has a car in the way, right has a pedestrian in the way. Should give a fair enough comparison. Might make a second version with jumping on the ramp and all that.[/quote]

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

Right side is easier too from my experience.

thread: The Site
NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

Request to add DXWnd to the resources. It is a program to make older games, that only support full screen, play in windowed mode.

http://i.imgur.com/r0owl10.jpg

I had a hard time trying to find something that made GTA: San Andreas tab out of the game easier to use chat or configure something in OBS. Actually bought a second monitor just so I could check if my timer didn't mess up. With this program speedrunning older games on a single monitor is less of a pain. Windows doesn't reinitialize video every time it loses focus on the game like it would in full screen.

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

[quote]Process: gta-sa.exe Module Memory Size: 18313216 Module Address: 00400000 Detected Version: 1.0 US

$480 found: 00A4A0E0 in module: 0064A0E0 offset: 000[/quote]

No version number on the menu. I used a downgrader on the Steam version. I renamed the .exe to "gta-sa" and removed the old one (Steam version) to save disk space and the ability to use it with Steam (show people I bought the game, log hours and for screenshots)

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

[quote]Messed up the bridge on A so had to realign them to make a fair comparison. New start is at the last lightpole (18 sec in) before the sides take a different route. B is still a little faster, might save .5 sec.[/quote]

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

  1. Introduction

Basically, you get the grenade during the second mission, Ryder. This strat can be useful if you are not confident with your aiming. Even if you are a true marksman, I think it is still interesting.

The comparison video does not show perfect segments because my aim is not good. They do however represent an example of how time could be saved if your aim is like mine.

  1. Missions

2.1 Ryder

Drive Ryder to the place, get the nade, return to the car, drive Ryder to the barbershop.

2.2 Tagging up Turf

Nade the Ballas and the fence, skipping the cutscene and no jumping over the fence.

2.3 Cleaning the Hood

Run to the dealer, nade him as early as possible.

Note: Watch out you don't hit the lightpole.

2.4 Nines and AKs

Shoot the first bottle, nade the bottles in the second and third part of the mission, shoot the car's tank.

2.5 OG Loc

Freddy can only be killed after the corner we always kill him, so no use in using grenades.

2.6 Running Dog

Run the usual route, keep the camera/CJ centered towards the tag when running over the road, stop after the center line on the pavement, throw the nade as far as possible. Kills the Vago before he goes around the corner, if failed, throw another grenade after he comes around the corner. This is actually very consistant, I think even more so than taking the clover and driving it all the way around, avoiding other traffic.

2.7 Drive-by

Get SMG ammo at the beginning of the mission by throwing a grenade towards Smoke, if you hit Smoke, you get 3 clips, otherwise you get only 2 clips from Ryder and Sweet. Continue until you have enough for the mission itself (optional), Sweet's Girl (optional), and Wrong Side of The Tracks (required).

I tried using grenades in the mission itself but it didn't exactly result in any time saving or consistency. Grenade on first spawn works well, second not so much because the Ballas are spread out. Third work rarely because the spawn and direction is random, fourth spawn doesn't work because there is alway one enemy to far away. Even if all this was consistant and would work, I doubt you could save any time with this. Best you could get out of all this is help killing the Ballas with the free ammo you can generate at the beginning, although this of course also results in time loss.

2.8 Sweet's Girl

Drive to the place, drive over three badguys, throw one nade at the car close to the marker, throw another at the badguy at the stairs, get in the car, wait for the call, park your car at the marker. You need a fourseater for this to work. I think we can make this faster by throwing a grenade before the marker instead of after.

2.9 High Stakes, Low-rider

Higher chance of skipping the hotdog because you are less likely to get damage during Sweet's Girl.

  1. Conclusion

This strat can be faster and more consistant if your aim sucks and die a lot at Sweet's Girl. I am curious if we can save some more time using nades before Burning desire. Maybe we can change the route to get to Burning Desire later because we already have grenades for missions where it has been crucial (House Party and such).

Thoughts?

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NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

If anyone is interested, I am making a bunch of videos comparing routes for missions: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMmeDYy10fD8EOXRfOglKwgHpE69hKB9B ... I'ts not much yet, but I'm working on more.

thread: The Site
NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

I want my name to be "oddRaven".

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

There are people on the leaderboards with no video, what about them?

NetherlandsoddRaven8 years ago

At first I wanted to see LS as a category, but theses posts changed my mind. Only thing I don't get is why '100 tags' can exist as a category?

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