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CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Hello,

I've recently heard of a so-called "meme" DW run that has been ran in the past, called the "threesome%" run. Basically, it comes down to getting to the Dragonlord with the princess in your arms, and accept his offer, which triggers the bad ending.

Here's an example of the run: &

I'll run this one offline as my main rig's board got killed, and my backup PC is a toaster that would explode if I tried streaming with it. I'll try to record the attempt, however possible that may be. Meanwhile, I thought it would be a cool category to add, as it presents a different challenge, different routing options as the goal vastly differs from the main game (ie: defeating the dragonlord vs merely getting to him to "exchange services").

Please let me know if you'd be willing to add the category. Thanks!

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CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

You'll be hard-pressed to find any HDTV that natively supports 240p/480i based games.

Thing is, an HDTV needs to convert the SD signal to a signal it is able to interpret, which requires processing time from the HDTV's video processor. Input lag mostly comes from this. Game mode on HDTVs attempts to reduce that processing time, which generally results into an image of lesser quality. But even then, it will never be able to replicate the near-zero lag CRTs provide.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

The following is solely my opinion, although I do believe a certain amount of people share it. But unless there are significant changes in the way TG is managed overall, I'm afraid we won't see any sort of collab between TG and SRcom anytime soon.

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thread: Golf (NES)
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Well either way, I don't mind. I found it to be clear as is, but if people are having an issue with the names as they are, said names can be changed. It won't really change much in the runs per se, which is what ultimately matters.

thread: Golf (NES)
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

The 1W and PT run actually makes it a lot harder, as you have to be very good at gauging your 1W to produce the same results as, say, a 5I. And forget it if you land in a sand pit.

thread: Golf (NES)
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Badbrakes got a bad break via stealth modding, it seems! :D

thread: Golf (NES)
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

If the name was confusing, I'd agree, but it's not. It's exactly what it says on the tin: complete the 18th hole.

thread: Talk
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Not any different, to be quite honest.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

It would be quite a long MS grind, however. What needs to be determined is at which level a RNG manip'd run would get to DL, if you take into consideration the damage tiles in DL's castle. As long as you can offset the damage (6 herbs) and keep your MP diving in, it would be a matter of perhaps 5 more levels.

So yeah, if that happens, it should be in a different category.

thread: Talk
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Editing the starting money on Monopoly (SNES). As in making your CPU opponents start with 0$

I mean, really now?

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Hey, if it's a matter of extra workload, I'll take on it. :D

So if there are no objections, I shall go ahead and make the changes.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

I'm fine with the extra categories. I just don't see a problem with people submitting their 100% run into the any% categories. There are several games that allow a single run to be submitted to multiple categories if it fits the prerequisite. For instance, Tetris on NES would allow you to submit your "100 Lines - Start at Level 0" run to the "100 Lines" category as well as it fits the 100 lines criteria.

So the way I see it, any% should end with whichever team that allows the ending to occur (as that's what an any% run is in essence: finish the game by any legal means necessary), while 100% must be completed by defeating the shadow team. I see no need to disallow 100% runs into any%, as several NES games already allow that. I mean, ultimately, a 100% run is slower, so if players don't forego the shadow match, joke's on them.

In that sense, I propose that the current categories get rebranded as 100%, and that we create new categories for any%.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

I hear ya. And I'm torn as I could consider myself both a traditionalist and a progressive, in the sense that while I wouldn't want to disrespect the work that has been done, speedrunning has always been about finding new ways to save time with what the game offers you de facto. That's what got me wondering what should be done about this in the first place.

But yeah, it all comes down to whether we make the current categories 100%, any%, or if we make both. Also, we have to keep in mind that if we go for both, it will be applicable to all three difficulty levels as well.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Well, here it is:

A difference of 36.85 seconds between a good Russia/Shadow combo and an unoptimized Shadow skip Russia match. The gap could've easily been 10 seconds wider if Boris would've thrown an accelerator at Mike on his jump shot.

And that gap will widen a LOT on difficult.

So this begs the question: what do we do? We have a few options here:

1- We forbid this. However, this pretty much goes against what any other game does, and that is letting the player use any and all means at his disposal to reach the ending. 2- We allow this. However, there is a risk that the community would find this unfair and cheap, especially considering the fact that ALL runs have the shadow match in them. 3- We create separate categories. However, do we really want to compete with SMB in terms of categories?

If any of you guys can think of other options, it would be great. Among those three, I'd lean towards option 2. I can't vote for 3 with a clear conscience for obvious reasons, and I'd hate to forbid using something that's clearly a part of the game, and an intended mechanic.

Looking forward to read your opinions.

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CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

It is no glitch, that is for certain. It has no effect on the ending whatsoever, tho. Shadow match or not, you still get the ending credits.

I believe it would come down to a case of any% vs 100%.

I am about to get home, so I'll experiment with that a bit, and compare Russia & Shadow vs Russia & intentional death to see if the time gain is indeed significant enough.

thread: The Site
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Hello,

I was wondering if there were any plans to add a following features for runners. For instance, if I'd like to have the site show me all of, for example, Arcus87's latest runs, I could follow him and have those presented in a way similar to the games' follow system on the front page.

I'm well aware this isn't something that would get implemented overnight, and was merely wondering if the idea's been pitched before.

Thanks!

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CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

There are nine moderators in total. Frame-counting can be done very easily with some video editing tools and basic math.

This is a non-issue.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

No, but I could try producing one either tonight or on the weekend, and see how it goes.

CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Here's what I came up with, I just want to have people's opinion on this.

Rules to review:

  • Timer starts once you get control of your characters, and ends on the last hit required to win the last match. Yay or nay?
  • Shadow team skip: Losing a teammate in the USSR match skips the shadow match and takes you to the credits right after the USSR match. Haven't tested this yet to see if that would actually save time, but I'd argue this part could be optimized by sacrificing a low-HP low-defense character like Mike, and then cleaning house with Sam, resulting in avoiding a 1 to 2 minute match altogether. Do you guys think we should allow that or not?
CanadaMarthSR7 years ago

Hello. Me again. :D

I've noticed we haven't got a definitive set of rules for the game. As a result, it seems like the timing conventions vary from one runner to another, which seems hardly fair.

For instance, I time my runs from the moment I have control to the moment my last shot hits the last shadow dude, and this seems to be the modus operandi of many runners. However, some people wait until the win celebration (like beadle111's last run), while others could wait until the beginning of the picture scene.

I believe there is merit in clarifying those.

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