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Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Yep, exactly. Whenever you load your save, the game randomly spawns certain number of events from some kind of "pool", so you can force spawn events you want. There are specific conditions for each event to be in the current "pool", but I haven't been able to figure it out exactly. It would require a lot of testing or look directly in the game's code.

Only secrets races are always present, depending on your current stage (maps can be found online).

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

I won't start with U2 again till couple months later. Need to work on Driver ;)

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Congrats. Damn, MW is now faster than U2 :D I have to do something about that. Btw, where do you get all the time? Are you on vacation?

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

100% for Chronicles would be fine since there is no backtracking, but I'm not sure about TRIV. I guess you would have to pickup everything possible in the first visit (for example miss a secret in City of the Dead due to no nitro) and finish the level the same way as IL run.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

"That mean you must ''only'' play event 30 for the world champion title. In my opinion. But this will only work with a event table. When we open a misc tabel what you say, than we have 64 different misc runs. With a event table we can open all challenge champion events into one board with 64 champion titles."

For fucks sake, the point is to create a full-game category based on some start and finish - in this case, 1-30 events. Stop talking about event table please! Event table won't solve this unless you make categories like "1-29,1-30", etc. The category would be named "1) Championship 1-30 events = World Champion Title". It's not just "world champion title". Get it?

"btw : The misc table from east, do not make the game faster. It make the game longer, because you must unlock first all the other events first. The misc table FIX only the problem from east, he play without memory card, that mean he can not save anytime. That mean all other runners that play the game normal with memory card must suffer for the misc table."

Why would you want to save in this mode, anyway? I don't get it. The point here is to create a category that won't take 5+ hours to do.

I see your problem with champion ranks. But event 30 is the last event that is not a bonus one and you get rank "world champion", which is kinda the ultimate rank in racing games.

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Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

The problem is that by your logic, the event 30 message should say "You are the world champion", not "You've completed championship mode" :) The game clearly says you've completed the mode, not just one event like "Event 9 - Pursuit BMW M5 Challenge -> here you are the BMW champion".

Why can't we just make categories that do not end with a video, but with just some kind of accomplishment like in this case - become the world champion? Is that really such a problem for you?

How about we make events 1-30 misc category? Kinda like "100 tags" category in San Andreas. I mean, if the run would be much shorter, why not do it?

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

east said you gain "You've completed Championship mode" message after beating event 30. That is something on which we can build a category. You already made the categories, so I don't understand why you suddenly turn around and try to deny 1-30 events categories. Please explain.

"01 - World Racing - Championship Event 30 -> World Champion - unlock Event 31 02 - World Racing - Championship Event 32 -> Hot Pursuit Champion unlock reward video 03 - Hot Pursuit - Ultimate Racer Event 30 -> Ultimate Racer - unlock Event 31 04 - Hot Pursuit + World Racing - Ultimate Racer Event 32 -> Hot Pursuit Champion unlock reward video 05 - maybe the 100% category with both 32 events, without unlock all cars."

This is fine if you're okay with 5 categories. It's too many in my opinion, but oh well, if that's how the game works... or we would only have to allow runs with events 32, not 30.

No, you didn't need 7 months to convince me about PS2 version being different. I didn't know about the difference untill we've received couple submissions and you made couple posts on forum that you managed to beat them, but PS2 version is a bit different. I don't remember you previously mentioning this to me. Event table IL is fine, we can do that, but that's not the point of discussion here. We're talking full-game runs.

"When you play both 32 events than you have 100% category. You must only play one of this 32 Events. Ultimate Racer has a own 32 event and Champion has a own 32 event."

Yes, I know.

thread: Speedrunning
Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

I've recently realized that I did a lot of speedruns just because by looking at the current "WR", I knew it could be improved. And so I did :)

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Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

1-31 category doesn't make sense since it's a bonus event and doesn't give you any rank (or it does?).

100% is not necessary unless someone requests it.

So the only question remains if you should complete both events 32 or just one in 4) Ultimate racer 1-32 events

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

That's a really weird game mechanics. OK, in that case, I propose these categories:

  1. Championship 1-30 events
  2. Championship 1-32 events
  3. Ultimate racer 1-30 events
  4. Ultimate racer 1-32 events - basically 100% run since you have to do all 64 events

east did championship 1-31 events that took 2:24 hours.

Agreed?

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Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Why wouldn't "3) Hot pursuit champion - complete event 32" category work? You said yourself, JessicaSix, that event 32 unlocks if you complete all hot pursuit and championship events, so I don't understand why would you need separate categories.

"When you play event 30, than you unlock Event 31. You must play all events in Hot Pursuit and 02 - World Racing to unlock the final race Event 32. When you not win all races on first place, than you can not unlock all other events."

"But the problem is when you read gamefaqs -> We have 2 different 32 events. For Championship Event 32, you only must play Championship Events 1-31. On Ultimate Racer Event 32 -> You must play all Events."

Which one of these is true? Both answers are different, at least for me.

east, can you please explain with your words how exactly this event 32 works? And what do you think about 1-30 category?

I can't set any rules if I've never played this version and I'm given a lot of misinformation.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Are those two events 32 any different? I mean, is the reward video same? If yes, we can use the categories from my previous post + 100%, if anyone wants to do it.

Events would be fine as IL.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

OK, so it is as I thought. Then I guess we can actually create 3 categories:

  1. World champion any% - event 1-30 of world racing mode
  2. Ultimate racer any% - event 1-30 of hot pursuit mode
  3. Hot pursuit champion - complete event 32

Am I correct?

Yes, you sort of "finish" the game with just 3), but I'm fine with at least reaching some rank, especially since this is a racing game and both categories would have totally different times. I'll probably do a similar thing with NFSIV career - 1) low% - finish all tournaments with at least bronze medals, 2) complete the whole career including tournament of champions

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

"Event 31 has the name 'bonus event', this unlock event 32. Event 32 is NOT a bonus event, it has the name 'Final Race'. To play the final event 32 you need event 31.

gamefaqs say -> event 31 and 32 are not bonus events, this are normal events to finsih the game to unlock the final race and unlock the ending video. "

WTF??? You say that event 31 is a bonus event, yet apparently gamefaqs says it isnt. Then you say that event 32 has a name "final race", yet gamefaqs says "this are normal events to finsih the game to unlock the final race and unlock the ending video. " There is a "final race?", or is that what event 32 is called?

To be honest, I'm totally confused now what is what and no offense, but you seem too :) Please explain step by step how the championships works, because I don't get it.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

People do speedrun this game, just not tournament. There's a whole online community: http://www.friendly-pc-gamers.net/asac

Does Championship mode have Ultimate Racer rank like Hot Pursuit mode? If so, we could create categories based on the ranks you achieve.

You said yourself JessicaSix that events 31 a 32 are just bonus events, so is it like the career in High Stakes? If you don't win all events in the first place, you don't unlock events 31 and 32?

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Maybe the upgraded brakes are too strong as in Carbon.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

What do you think, JessicaSix? I'm fine with "Event 1-30" and "Event 1-32" categories.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Um, I thought your 50 hour run is game 100%, hypnoshark? Why is it back in career 100%?

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

Hmm yeah, I guess that's clear now. Becoming a champion should be the same as beating a game.

Czech RepublicEwil9 years ago

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