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8 years ago
New Jersey, USA

wouldnt be useful as we need torenos last flight to skip yay ka boom boom and skips woozie missions

Virginia, USA

How do you do the flight school dupe is there a tutorial for it?

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California, USA

Text from a comment by Rhans: During the test selection screen answer the call, wait for it to end. After that cj should be able to move again, even though you wont see him because you will see seing the test menu seleection, then press the down button and you will start the mission again. Then just complete this mission and you will pass the mission twice, also you will not get wanted level until you reset the max wanted level again.

How to hold a call:

All credit to Rhans

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Virginia, USA

With doing 0¤ in SF do you need to save and load before vertical bird so you don't get a mission fail?

California, USA

I've heard of crashes, but i'm not 100% sure. Just to be safe i'd save/load so the game doesn't meme you (like it always does).

Virginia, USA

Okay thank you guys

Virginia, USA

I feel stupid for asking this I'm doing runs later and don't have time for practice,but doing snail trail OM0 if you have a cop car you can run over the guys and still pass the mission right or is it risky they'll pop your tires?

Serbia

When I have a cop car I always do that, saves like 4-5s, and I've never gotten a popped tire

Portugal

This was found a few days ago but hasn't been posted from what I've seen

Dam and Blast instapass, the first (usable) instapass for San Andreas

Steps:

1 - Start Vigilante during a mission with the same stack type as Dam and Blast (in this case, Stowaway, but I heard Vertical Bird also works) 2 - Suicide or get busted to end the Vigilante thread that has the wrong stack type 2a - Buy an asset. This is only necessary if you get a cop vehicle after deathwarp or to make sure you don't run out of time 3 - Start Dam and Blast

After this you're left with one Dam and Blast instance that you have to cancel somehow. Suiciding with a phonecall is one way.

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Germany

What you failed to mention is that duped Vigilante is unstable. I do not know how unstable - it might be a 10% or 40% chance to crash. I could not reproduce it in 20 tries but that was with modding and reloading right before each dupe.

To be more precise, I modded some random mission to only include a bunch of NOPs and a wait with a nice offset that does not crash Vigilante. Then I used that to dupe Vigilante. I did not get a crash in 20 tries so I thought that that wait offset was stable since it skips quite a lot of Vigilante code - but the criminal counts as dead so it immediately jumps back to offset 1000 so it is unlikely that this offset is safer than the 300 Stowaway offset.

About 2a: I think it is impossible to make it to the D&B marker in 55 seconds. So you have to enter a cop vehicle.

The wait command you need for the instapass is used between ending a level (killing the threat) outside of any cop vehicle and you being back inside one. If it were possible time-wise, you could just drive from the hospital straight to the mission but since it is not, you need to kill another criminal. A consistent way to do so is buying a house which is funny but makes sense if you understand the internals. After the buy, do not enter enter a cop vehicle because then the game crashes. Start Dam & Blast instead.

I only tested the main loop waits right after the start of missions to fix the Vigilante stack - for both scm versions since barely any mission differs (10 or so). I can check out alternatives.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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I've been trying to dupe Misappropriation recently but I can't get it down consistently. It's either the second briefcase getting destroyed somehow or, more rarely, the agents not picking up the second briefcase. Is there a trick to getting this right I'm not aware of?

So I've finally failed ES dupe in full game, first time in ~10 attempts. Although I still think that it should be more consistent in full game than it is in IC runs so I'll continue to do it.

Virginia, USA

Quick question and this may be dumb so I know duping flight school skips NOE, so say you did highjack route duped verdant medows and flight school would that there for skip noe and stowaway? Or no?

Poland

You don't have to listen to entire call if you have speed of light pause buffer.

Virginia, USA

You have a point it would take longer to go all the way back to blood bowl or bike school to setup the OM0 call of verdant medows

Virginia, USA

Oh okay now I understand I'm sorry for the confusion on my oart

South Holland, Netherlands

The difference is actually a bit smaller than you explained in your post, since stowaway landing to reaching the heli takes about 20 seconds longer than flight school exit to reaching the heli (source: comparing reset's old pb and new pb)

Doing stowaway is still faster though.

Germany

Reminder that for the Learning to Fly dupe you should do everything by holding the button rather than mashing. Else you can run into unnecessary trouble:

  1. Once the mission is duped, hold sprint until both parachute lessons are started.
  2. After completing the lesson, hold F until the mission is passed.

If you do not, sometimes only one lesson starts. Starting the second lesson kills CJ. If you do not hold F, the game can crash.

Paraguay

Hello, i'm new in the speedrun community and currently almost done with learning the SA run, my problem is that i'm stuck on Beat Dow on B dup, in the last part as always spawns 2 infernus on top of each other and the ballas guarding the house etc. So i kill all of them and get to the marker, i skip the last cutscene twice but when i pass the mission it says "Big Bear is dead" so i do not skip G4L properly. Any help?

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