Hi,
While looking at what other speedgame does as categories, I actualy had an idea that could work great for Undertale. Some games uses an "Level Leaderboard" where the runners run only a specific level or part of the game.
I think this could actualy be used with Undertale. Some people might not have enough time to do a full run (And the time differance between a normal run and NG+ isn't that big) nor want to deal with extreme RNG like Frisk%. People might just want to do something short.
So there is what I'm thinking about : Adding Level Leaderboards and have in 5 categories :
- Ruins
- Snowdin
- Waterfall
- Hotlands
- Core (And Maybe add a 6th one for true lab ?)
How would it works : For Ruins the timer would start upon starting the game, and ends after you exit the last ruins room (The one before UNDERTALE appears)
For Snowdin you would start as soon as you start moving in the very first room after exiting the ruins (A save file in this room made with debug mode could be used to actualy start in this room) and ends after leaving the last room before Waterfall (The one where you fight Papyrus)
For Waterfall you would start in the very first room after papyrus fight (A save to start in this room could be made with debug mode) and finish after leaving the room at the end of Undyne chase (I consider that Undyne should be included in Waterfall even if the ends of the chase is in the start of Hotlands)
For Hotlands you would start in the first room after the end of the Undyne chase (The room just before Alphys lab. A save can be made here easily as there is a save star in this room.) and finish when you enter the MTT Hotel with your C/Ctrl menu Working. The used save Items would contain a Punch Card to be able to perform PCE related glitches.
For Core you would start in the MTT Hotel room (A save can be made here easily with the save star.) and finish when entering the door after Asgore fight. The save would be based on an NG+ Save so Monstertale can be mashed and you wont do the flowey fight, while still fighting Asgore. The save Items would contain a Punch card for PCE. You would have the Pan and Appron equipped and start with LV4 frisk to make this part similar to the end of a Neutral NG+ run. (Frisk LV and equipped items could be discussed because I think you might not agree with that point of view here)
In case you also add True Lab it would probably start in the elevator that lost power (Save in there with debug mode) and finish at the last toriel text just before the credits. The inventory would contain a punch card for PCE, you would've Apron and Pan equipped and of corse Frisk at LV1.
I think that could be great. You want to do something short ? Pick one of these instead of a full run. You don't have enought time to do a full run but still want to do something related to Undertale speedrunning ? You could do those as well. They could also be used to practice a part of the game and sill participating in the leaderboards and the community by submitting these runs.
Can I have your toughts ?
Also unrelated to that, using Level Leaderboard for Temmie Colege% and Lesser Dog% would probably be a good idea, as both are not full game runs.
Thanks for you consideration, have fun running and getting WR (Or not ;) ) Sorry for very long message too.
It's not a bad idea at all imo. Will edit with more detail later. Let's see what other mods think.
I'm all for this. It would be a fun addition.
edit: or not.......
