I see it's added, but not for misc categories,why?

Mod(s), can you tell us about rule changes in the future, please?

Looks like the same old rules to me.

Same but then I actually read them until the end :D Unless that was really there before this discussion or I misunderstand you. ^^

The video has to show that you're starting the run from a fresh game start, because not everything is reset correctly when starting a new game from in-game. Alternatively, add timestamps in the comment for all swimming sessions up to the first lung capacity upgrade when you submit a time, UNLESS YOU SKIP AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT. More information here Any times that wish to be considered WR must be done from a fresh game start.

You are right. This forum needs a "move posts" feature for people like reset. :P

A timing method where you can take your sweet time skipping the first cutscene feels wrong to me. Having two different timing methods for WR and the rest also feels wrong.

"Games start when the initial loading is done" feels right to me. [People confused by "feels right" tell me what is not totally "feely" about deciding this^^]

Does ig time start after that no matter if the game was re-started before "New Game" or not?[initial loading]

Barely anyone seems to care so we could just use that then. Otherwise, we'd need some better "loading done detection". ^^

The timing start is going to change sooner or later, so might aswell change it now

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If you can't make the decision mod people to make it for you, there's plenty of people that are eligible for mod here.

Will current times on the leaderboard be adjusted? I don't envy the guy that's gonna look through every run and see how much the time needs to be changed. All this is assuming the rule is changed.

Yeah after we talked about it a bit (sorry we weren't, thanks for kicking us about it) we're currently at the conclusion that changing the timing to anywhere else won't actually solve anything.

The issue with the current timing is that you can gain time based on the inconsistency of gaining control of CJ yes? Well changing to any other proposed timing method (after loading bar disappears, on fade to black after loading) won't change that fact. You will still gain time on the inconsistent control, because you can start moving quicker regardless of where you started the timer. (if anything, starting the timer when you do actually gain control of CJ is actually more accurate)

The only thing is improves is manually starting the timer is slightly more accurate, at the cost of re-timing every run, informing every runner of the change and changing auto-splitters. The only real way to fix this issue is to have an accurate start to the current auto-splitter, one that detects and starts when you actually gain control of CJ. Until then, or until someone comes up with a better timing start (We can't think of any) I don't think this is a worthwhile change.

(I basically just formalised and posted what was said in discord)

I would just recommend everyone to use Tduva's timing start for consistency. There's many inconsistent things in this game so whatever.

Also

"Any times that wish to be considered WR must be done from a fresh game start" The suffering beginnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnns especially for snapshots & tags boys atm, but it's fair, so good stuff.

I agree with Reset, just use Tduva's timing start and that's it, no one really cares about losing or gaining 0,1s in a run...

Early control sounds like something that can be figured out by someone who cares. Atm, that someone is not me.

Apologies on digging up a year old thread, I didn't feel like creating a new one for something that has been talked about before. The girlfriend stat can be carried over save files: The Green Sabre save file has Katie as a girlfriend, which lets you keep your weapons after dying. This is in my opinion quite the benefit for "casual runners", and shouldn't be allowed just because 'they are not trying to get WR'. Edit: Forgot to mention, I am aware that this is known already, as Nick007J told me about this.

I think a New game + category could be quite interesting! GET TO ROUTING PEOPLE ( I can't route for shit! )