I will never get used to this.

Edit: whatever Tirean is probably waiting for the pinky friendly route to come out. That saves 2min over doing Woozie but does not hold calls more than necessary. :D Or 8, or 6, I don't care,

Don't forget to dupe Mountain Cloud Boys to get that free call and dupe Highjack while Flying gets sub 4:10 using Woozie skip - hopefully, he does not use it, atm.

This was the issue i was talking about - CJ randomly answering some call. Is there a fix?

if you keep shooting it should cancel the call

Talking about the part before the train ;)

Lads, holding a call through outrider and snail trail is caps lock friendly. skip last cutscene on outrider w/mouse and snail trail works with caps just fine. the button you use to skip the cutscene seems to be the problem after all? last cutscene on jizzy isn't skippable w/mouse,though.

That was my thought process a while ago Reset, never did test it. Glad Capslock is good though! Makes me a tiny bit more interested in learning the new route.

what button do you have to press to start l2f again? i entered the marker, i released the call and listened to all of it - nothing happened after

I haven't figured out how it works but it always worked for me if I hold S. If he still isn't inside the marker, I hold D, iirc. Maybe A but much more likely, it is D.

so here's my sf and post sf so far for us pussy boys who aren't willing to hold through stuff also some stuff taken from Patrick's video but summed up in text for people who prefer it that way.... 1.555 - Inconsistently get the semi-fast D.A. spawn because you have no idea how patrick gets the fast one Kappa seriously though , i've tried it a couple times now but nothing - teach me. 2.Deco - t-bone same thing as always. 3. After t-bone go to blood bowl, then just do outrider with om0 - take the sanchez and go straight to NRG, after you're done with the waves store the NRG and get a car, get another NRG, start holding the call before triggering the last cutscene and maybe answer some calls here (Woozie,zero) MAKE sure you skip the last outrider cutscene with the mouse if you're using CAPs 4. Holding through snail trail - as soon as you enter snail trail marker, release the call then spam F so you get on the NRG, save afterwards for stars to go away. Before killing the reporter start holding again & kill them with the AK. Get a police bike or police car during the mission, should get either one 99% of the time. 5.Note about the removing stars permanently glitch: it's better to get out of the plane early then late - i've learned the hard way. 6.Ice Cold Killa -> Pier 69, nothing special. 7. Toreno's Last Flight dupe, mission is no different than normal, shot isn't any different. 8. Answer the monster call, then buy Zero -> go to blood bowl, get an om0 call and then hold it through driving school. seems consistent to me even with caps? Guess i'll do it until it fails. Also still not sure whether to get 2 or 3 golds considering i'll be 4:23-4:25 pace atleast when on a run.... hm. Did you save your 4:57 patrick, if you did could you tell me how much driving skill you had in %? 9. Monster duping w/key inputs Also DON'T forget to grab the missiles, i personally added a split so i don't forget 10.Interdiction and VM are normal... after you bought verdant meadows store the PCJ in the garage because flight school despawns it. 11.Duping L2F:when you've reached parachute onto target, get out of flight school, grab the PCJ and go to bike school. Usual duping setup, then enter flight school marker, listen to ALL of the call and hold s, CJ should now enter l2f again. Complete parachute onto target and that should skip N.O.E. Everything else for me is the same now.

In my PB i got 2 golds in driving school and i had 24%

I don't think that I have saved after EOTL my PB (most likely I did not save before going to 8-track) but it does not matter. It is easier to guess using your own PB, since your PB is closer to your Woozie skip time than mine.

555 - there is a thread about it.but it is not fun to learn with it. :D You should read everything there and see if the first post misses something important. http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/9j7s1

Thanks for posting a route. Now I have some pressure to release the proper route (with shift/rshift holding). ^^

Because skipping Yay Ka-Boom-Boom doesn't unlock LV, so you have bridge barriers (that make Highjack slow) and 4 stars

Guess i'll stick to 3 golds (Damn it,still forced to do the blista one) 555 D.A. stuff seems boring - i'll learn it in 2039

Is it necessary to go to trucking before AYGTSF and do that holding + cancelling phonecall thing through all the missions before outrider? Could we dupe t-bone with the setup after photo opportunity or with the setup after jizzy, and then do the normal things?

Missions where you answer calls (with wasting as less time as possible) Woozie:snail trail/outrider Zero:st/outrider Driving school: After first Toreno's last flight, after that activate the 2nd one Zero and Driving school take priority over Monster call so make sure you answer the Driving school and Monster call before buying Zero or run is dead (catalina call doesn't even seem to be available before monster?)

the catalina call comes in after monster iirc

I've learned it now, because I posted this 9 days ago, but thanks for the information, I wasn't sure when's the best time to answer the calls

Catalina is unlocked by Ran Fa Li. Also NOE or Flight School if you duped VM or Flight School.

Is BP duping with Missapropriation setup faster than BP duping with the Quarry setup? If it is, do you know how much time does it save, because if it saves like 30 seconds, there's no point learning it

Why did the D.A. not come @Patrick? What did i do wrong here?