Thanks for telling me about the fully unlocked file in the resources section, no offense to anyone who has gotten a fully unlocked file by themselves but I am not that much of a masochist.

I think "non-masochistic" research I'm about to do will work for learning items.

So for some reason I really like this game and decided to buy both rebirth and the afterbirth DLC. At the moment I really have no idea how to start playing this game. Here's what I know and hopefully people on here can help me with what I do not know/what I need to know.

I know I have to unlock certain items/characters. Most of the good items have to be unlocked and to be able to play as anyone but isaac you have achieve certain things in game. I have the pastebin about starting items, so I know what I'm looking for on first floor treasure rooms. And that's all I know (in retrospect I don't know anything).

So uh yeah, what do I need to learn? I'm assuming I need to memorize what items do what so that I can get a good build. That's the only thing I can think of, but yeah... any help would be appreciated.

Sidenote: I know I have to unlock the starting items to be able to use them, but what other items should I unlock? Should I unlock all of them or is that not necessary? Sidenote2: I have yet to decide what kind of speedrun I want to run for this game, putting this here in case anyone asks.

also celestics, can you help me with what you mean in your pastebin about being defeated? I don't know what you mean by that. I am trying to go chapter by chapter and noticed where it said "be defeated" in chapters 3, 4, and 5.

Decided to start on Chapter 3. I got to the Gabite fight, and tried to be defeated like it says in your pastebin. Am I reading it wrong? Cause I had no reviver seeds (regular or tiny) and had to redo the fight. I though I read somewhere here that you could lose that boss battle and continue with the story.

I'm not using your pastebin as a guide btw, I read through it and noticed that tidbit about being defeated. I figured that since I was gonna start chapter 3 anyway, I may as well give it a try.

Right now I am working on chapter 1 and 2, so I have yet to get to the point where the partner gets involved. That is the reason why I asked that. also, your last sentence makes no sense to me. I get that chespin uses physical attacks and charmander uses special, but what do you mean by scaling off? and how does that correlate to uses a water type? I feel so dumb for not knowing this already O)_(O

working on speedrun as I type this, but I figured I'd ask something to Celestics if he notices this. I read your pastebin and saw that you use Chespin as your partner. May I ask the reasoning for that? I looked through the list of available pokemon, but I could not find a list that shows when they learn new moves/what they can learn. If you have that it'd be helpful.

Anyway, I am splitting once the chapter screen pops on screen (2, 3, etc...) and starting at the moment I click A for the "are these the pokemon you wish to use" question. that good? I am working on the speedrun 2 chapters at a time, so I can focus on what is going on in each area/chapter btw.

Before I put my final opinion on any of that, I'm gonna play the game over the course of this weekend. I'll just stick to the team I used on my first playthrough and try and route the game. I like the idea of splitting after each chapter/main dungeon. Once again, I'll see what works when I grind this weekend. I'll be back in a day or 2 to say what I found. Time to go grind! (but first sleep, I'll grind in the morning)

One last thing, I played through GtI but I wasn't into speedruns so I did not know about it not having rng manipulation. Thanks for the info.

that feeling when you forget you made this post a month ago and people are actually starting to care (yay). God I've had so much stuff happening in my life I didn't have any real time to work on my PSMD speedrun. anyway, I read everything all you said and here's what I have to say:

1. with WM I like the idea of it, but I agree that the rng in the game is enough to get you what you need.

2. when working on the early areas of the game, I split my timer when save prompts came up. what do you guys think of that?

3. for when the start/stop the run, how about starting when it fades to black as you enter the world of pokemon? and for any% stop when save prompt after defeating DM, and the save with save prompt after saving partner for epilogue%.

4.like I said originally I am new to speedrunning, so I have to ask: what is routing? I probably am dumb for saying that. though I do understand the concept of figuring out how rng works so that we can either manipulate it or work around it.

5. I need to playthrough the game a few more times (like I said life has stopped me), before I can comment about what you said about orbs and which pokemon would be a good choice. and here I thought I could just coast on by with fennekin and riolu OTP ¤sigh¤ I even memorized all the questions to get them ¤another sigh¤

So yeah, anyone have any opinions on what I said? I don't have a capture card either so I can't record my runs currently but I am trying to get one (and learn how to install it). and yet I wonder if anybody will see this since the last reply was 3 weeks ago. I blame my awful memory :P Anyway... I'm ready and willing to help work on this game. Let me know if anybody needs any help.

Hello! So I'm kind of new to speedrunning, and decided to go ahead and start with my favorite pokemon game series (mystery dungeon). I looked for information online about how to speedrun this game, but all I could find was for previous installments in the PMD series. I've beaten the game in its entirety (main story wise +epilogue), so I'm open to suggestions on how to speedrun this game.

The only real questions I would have would be:

1. At what point would we stop the timer? I've seen that in other PMD games you stop when the credits roll, and personally I dislike that. Mostly due to the way PMD stories end when the credits role. There is that feeling of not finishing since your partner leaves (spoilers). What I was thinking was continuing the game until the point at which your partner returns, so that the story ends in its entirety.
2. Would we be allowed to use the wonder mail codes that give you in-game items? From looking at the list over on gamefaqs (NA version), I'd only ever want the Orans, wands, and reviver seeds, as well as a TM or 2 depending on my playable characters.

I am just posting this here because when I mentioned in my introductory post that I wanted to speedrun a new game like PSMD, the personw who commented said that it'd be best for me to make a post here as to what I should do. Any help would be appreciated :)

So yeah, I blame searching "yoshi's island" on youtube a few weeks ago for getting me into speedrunning (agdq 2014 tri-hex 100% run). So now I want to learn all I can about speedrunning so I can be able to speed run some games that I enjoy playing. some examples would be etrian odyssey untold, the pokemon mystery dungeon series, and of course yoshi's island. i found the gba version of it in elementary school and loved it ever since :). So since I want to get into speedrunning, I have a few questions that hopefully the people here on the internet can help me out with.

1. I've seen people have a timer on the side of their screen that keeps track of their time, goals, etc. What i this and is it useful?
2. Where do I go to find information about speedrunning certain games. I know there is a yoshi's island speedrunning wikia, but is there a place like that for all games?
3. What do I do if I want to speedrun a new game? Cause I want to speedrun pokemon super mystery dungeon (just came out in english friday), but no it's so new there's probably no information about what speedrunning the game entails (i.e. information from question 2).

Please help me out, cause I've always wanted to speedrun, just never had to drive until I saw someone speedrunning yoshi's island :)