ScotlandI'd never heard of that Timmiluvs. Nice.
I'm also a fan of GDQ's "First Step" series where every week two players try to race each other in a "semi-blind" speedrun. It's not truly blind, but it's blind enough that it hopefully encourages others to pick up the game to run.
@6oliath you misunderstand, if your post was directed at me - a distinction shouldn't be made SPECIFICALLY when a run is submitted to SR.C
We're not some internet-trawling machine that categorically states the "record" on this site is the fastest run in the world. Of course there is a difference between a speedrun, a high score run, a lets play, etc out in the wild.
We are however a site that at its core logs any run submitted to it. That is where I personally don't think a distinction should be made. If somebody submits a 'lets play' style video as THEIR personal fastest time of a game, then why should we gatekeep that they have to be faster than they currently are.
In principle, I understand why you would want to gatekeep that, however it begins a slippery slope.... if 3 hours is too slow, is 2.5 hours to slow? 2 hours? Do we then begin saying you can only submit a run if you beat the World Record? And what about PBs.
I personally don't like submitting every single PB I ever do, but the ethos of SR.C in general, as far as I can tell, encourages people who want to log every single PB for posterity's sake. So isn't somebody who submits four 30 minute PBs every week "wasting" just as much time as one person submitting a 2 hour 'lets play' run?
What is the game? Might be easier to see what you mean rather than trying to figure it out from the description.
I know we had a lot of issues getting the layout of the Streets Of Rage 4 boards correct due to i) the 6 categories per ii) the 17 players and iii) the major new balance changes with V5 essentially changing the whole game.
Are you talking about livesplit?
There is absolutely nothing in the game rules saying that a timer needs to be displayed and I don't see any kind of IGT. Just because others have used livesplit doesn't mean you should necessarily be excluding people who don't want to use it. To be honest, I would think as a community you would err on inclusion of runners rather than arbitrarily excluding them.
However if you want to make livesplit a requirement for some reason (I think this would be a bad idea btw) - you absolutely need to include that in the rules.
Yes, it entirely depends on how the community want to time the game.
For instance, Sonic The Hedgehog is perhaps my favourite example of this. The leaderboards go so far as to list BOTH types of time; that is, either pure IGT or the frame-by-frame exclusion of time bonus from RTA. The moderators even have a helpful little section on the rules explaining both, how to self-time AND a note that if you are not comfortable with either way, that the mods themselves will retime it for you anyway.
Obviously this is easier to do on a short game. If you're talking about re-timing a massive leaderboard of 7 hour long RPG runs then the community might want to think long and hard as to whether it is worth it, or whether sticking with your current method is more appropriate.
If you like fighting/brawler games I'd always advocate Streets Of Rage 4.
There are 17 characters, each with five difficulty levels, plus a "Boss Rush" mode, so there is something for every skill level. If you want an easy, sub hour speedrun, practise Cherry or Adam on Easy difficulty. If you want a challenge but only around 8-15 minutes, play Boss Rush. But if you want a REAL challenge, try Blaze2 on Mania mode.
Something for everyone, at different time commitments, assuming you like that style of game.
Hello,
Welcome :) I don't really have any tips for equipment or whatever but in terms for advice I would suggest asking in whatever forum of the game(s) you are running. You will usually find there are a Discord server or whatever where people share time saving tricks etc.
Anyway, enjoy :)
Hello,
A leaderboard for that game doesn't appear to exist. So someone will need to request it. You can request it if you like but you will need to moderate the board and ensure that the game follows the rules before you request it.
More information can be found here:
You can speedrun videoless - just not on this website.
I used to speedrun SMB: Lost Levels and provide picture/text updates on my Twitter feed. It was fun, but definitely not to the standards expected here.
So if you don't want to record videos of your runs - go have fun some other way :)
We should go full meta. Somebody set up "Get Accepted%" and we can speedrun how quickly it takes to get a new category set up on SR.C
Oh thank you so much :) Axel and Skate definitely, Blaze possibly with a bit of work. I don't think I'll go for sub 50 any time soon but I'd encourage anyone else to try it, especially Axel!
Again, if they are not cheating or breaking the game rules, then the verifier should only be verifying that it is indeed a run of that game and logging the time on the leaderboards. If someone purposefully wants last place, that's also not for us to gatekeep.
Literally the verifier's only job is to verify that a run does not break the rules. Any other opinions on the "speed" or lack thereof is superfluous to the verifier's role.
Personally I would err on the side of Crisco here. Where do we draw the line if we start rejecting runs for being "too slow"?
I mean, a game that Hako runs (Detroit: Become Human) averages 3 hours yet has a 6 hour run on the board.
I play Puyo Puyo Tetris and the 100% category has 1 hour to 2 hour average yet has a 4.5 hour run on the board.
Razor Freestyle Scooter averages 9 to 15 minutes but has a nearly hour-long run on the board.
One of the most popular games, SMB3, Any% Warpless averages 1 to 2 hours with 215 runs in that timeframe. Yet they accepted the 9 runs in the 3 to 4 hour margin, four runs in that 4 to 5 hour mark and even a 19 hour "run"!
I would say the precedent has definitely been set across SR.C in general - if a user submits a run, and it doesn't break any game specific rules, the verifier should verify the run on that basis ONLY - the actual speed of the run is not for us to begin gatekeeping on.
What I personally think would be better for this person to do is submit their walkthrough as a resource and submit a faster PB to the board for their own benefit but that is not for us to decide. If their fastest time completing the game is 3 hours longer than the average for the game, that is not your place to reject their run on those grounds - only if they broke any game specific rules, or cheated to gain that time.
Absolutely fine :) it would only be an issue if you and Drake were to have an argument about who is faster or who got their run before the other. But while this website tries its best to be a place for people to submit their runs, some choose not to so it is not a case of "the #1 run here is categorically the fastest", it is just that it is the fastest run that has been submitted here :)
I think you are confused - SR.C isn't an aggregator website that trawls the internet for every single runthrough of every single game ever performed and recorded on the internet.... the "world record" here is just the fastest time that has been submitted here.
If you have a faster time not on SR.C - good for you.
If you want the fastest time on SR.C - submit your run here. This website never claimed to be a collection of the fastest times in the world like some kind of records committee. It relies on YOU submitting your run if you even want to be recognised here in the first place. A lot of people don't care so never submit runs that are faster than those that are on here.
I don't think the point is a "gotcha", it's highlighting yet more inconsistency in the way these vague rules are applied.
The fact series creators have a loophole that is accepted, makes me question why new games aren't accepted in a broader sense. It's nonsensical, whether you agree with the rule or not, for it not to apply evenly across the entire site one way or the other.
There is no such thing as "out of reach for a beginner".
If you decide you love Castlevania and want to speedrun it, and complete the game in one hour, hey - you have a speedrun! You can then work towards getting that time down to 59 minutes, 58 minutes, whatever. 2snek didn't start at 11 minutes - they built their way up over three years.
Similarly, Dark Souls. You like that game? You can complete it? Cool, complete it and submit the time. The get a better time. And a better one. Or move onto another game.
The point is - welcome to speedrunning. It isn't at its essence a competition against the world, it is a competition with yourself. You play what you enjoy, and once you've completed it, play it again and try to go faster :)
