Hi everyone,

in an effort to make subsistence an interesting and fair challenge run, and more consistent to how the game works, we are presenting new rules for it:

• complete the minimum mission requirements in the fastest time possible in a single segment
• all weapons and items OSP (on-site procurement)
• you MAY deploy with weapons in your loadout, but you MAY NOT use them and MUST swap them for other weapons you find during the mission.
• you MAY NOT deploy with items or support weapons in your loadout.
• you MAY deploy with whatever tools in your loadout.
• you MAY NOT deploy with a vehicle, but you MAY use any vehicles found during a mission.
• you MAY start a mission from the ACC or Free Roam.
• use of the Chicken Hat, Reflex Mode, Supply Drops, Buddy Deployment, Support Helicopter Air Support, and Support Strikes is NOT ALLOWED
• use of Support Helicopter Pick Ups is ALLOWED
• use of any uniforms but Olive Drabs is NOT ALLOWED
• use of Bandanas or Balaclavas is NOT ALLOWED
• use of any bionic arms but the standard Bionic Arm, or it's Silver or Gold variants, is NOT ALLOWED
• use of Mother Base Soldiers is ALLOWED
• use of preemptive weather modifications are ALLOWED
• use of the "Wrong Start" glitch is NOT ALLOWED
• strats that allows for an instant/trivial automatic completion with very little or no dependence on execution within the timed portion of the run, WILL NOT BE ALLOWED

(It should be added that the use of D-Horse at the start of Phantom Limbs is allow - feel free to voice your opinion on this decision)

Most of the rules reinforce what was discussed in the original forum post by @CPZXIII. I also wanted to reinforced that achieving the No Traces or Perfect Stealth, No Kills bonuses is not a requirement. However, one rule changes it all: you are only allowed to use Olive Drabs. Why? The game forces you to use it when you start a subsistence mission, and it also prevents the use of other uniforms with different camo indexes and swimsuits, which increase the movement speed of mother base soldiers. This means that all previous runs that used a different uniform will be removed.

This is a list of runs that will be removed once the new rules are put in place:

EP1 Phantom Limbs by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP1 Phantom Limbs by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP3 A Hero's Way by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP4 C2W by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP10 Angel with Broken Wings by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP14 Lingua Franca by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP31 Sahelanthropus by @Salok; Reason: Uses DD, which is already banned. EP42 Metallic Archaea Extreme by @Salok; Reason: Uses fatigues different then Olive Drabs. EP44 Pitch Dark Total Stealth by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP47 The War Economy Total Stealth by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit. EP48 Code Talker Extreme by @CPZXIII; Reason: Uses swimsuit.

As you could tell these are all the subsistence runs currently submitted to the boards. You could argue that some should remain on the boards, but I don't want to start a trend and allow runs that break the rules - for example: using DD during Sally's fight, it's silly but the rules must be enforced.

Feel free to ask any questions or give suggestions. Thank you.

Hello everyone,

recently we've made some changes to the boards, more specifically with the regions and the rules regarding it:

We've removed "EUR / PAL" from the 'selectable' regions for submissions. Reason being that there are no know differences between PAL and NTSC. Also, there are only two versions of the game: "ENG" and "JPN"; one that uses the English voice over and the other the Japanese voice over.

The new rules regarding regions goes as follows: If you played on the "ENG" version, select "USA / NTSC" on the submission form; If you played on the "JPN" version, select "JPN / NTSC" on the submission form.

Thank you.

Hello Everyone,

Me and @Steg_Darkhorse have been thinking about allowing certain rank-lowering items for the PSNK and NO TRACES categories. This thread will serve as both a poll and discussion topic. This discussion came up in part due to how the board currently has runs that conflict with the listed rules (i.e.: PSNK does not allow the use of anything rank restricting, but bombardments have been used in runs and do not break the PSNK bonus. The Parasite Suit is listed as banned for NO TRACES because of rank restrictions, but the mist parasites does not lower your rank and has been used in NO TRACES runs).

In order to clear up what is and isn't allowed while also keeping to the community wishes, we'd like to invite runners to give their opinions on some of these potential changes and clarifications. Please note that depending on how this discussion goes, SOME RUNS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE IL LEADERBOARD. Please keep that in mind.

Here's a list of all rank-lowering items:

Uniforms:

• SV-Sneaking Suit (Grade 6), or greater;
• Sneaking Suit (Grade 6), or greater;
• Battle Dress (Grade 6), or greater;
• Sneaking Suit (NS) (Grade 6), or greater;

(every uniform increases it's defense by "1" every Grade from the 6th. Battle Dress increases it's defense by "1" every Grade from the 3rd.)

Items:

• Stealth Camo.PP (Grade 3), or greater;
• Stealth Camo (Grade 6);
• Parasite (Camouflage) (Grade 4), or greater;
• Flare Grenade (Grade 3), or greater; (throwing a Flare Grenade will break NO TRACES.)

Helicopter:

• Air Support; (can, and probably will, kill soldiers breaking both PSNK and NO TRACES.)

Fire Support:

• Bombardment; (if used against vehicles it will not count as a kill, meaning you can attain the PSNK bonus with (for example) the Episode 41 Any% strat.)
• Smoke;
• Sleeping Gas;
• Chaff;
• Weather Modification; (Weather Modifications such as Sandstorms will prevent you from attaining S-Rank, but you are still able to achieve the PSNK bonus with them; note that, if a "natural" Sandstorm happens during a mission it will not break NO TRACES nor restrict your rank; note also that, the Parasite Mist item achieves a similar effect as sandstorm - without the noise covering - but it does not restricts your rank to a A-Rank; note also that, Rain has the ability to temporarily stun Skulls and Quiet. both versions of the Metallic Archaea and Code Talker missions only allow for weather modifications in-mission, but both versions of Quiet's fight allows for pre-mission weather modifications.)

(all types of Bombardments breaks NO TRACES.)

Buddy Equipment:

• F-Ballista (Grade 5), or greater; (using the fulton ballista breaks NO TRACES.)

The polls where separated by item type and category. Meaning you could vote for certain items being allowed for PSNK and, at the same time, banned for the NO TRACES category. (The Items mentioned in this list are the same mentioned on the list above.)

Uniforms:

• allow all Uniforms for PSNK;

• allow only the Battle Dress for PSNK;

• allow only the Sneaking Suits for PSNK;

• allow only +3 defense Sneaking Suits for PSNK;

• ban all Uniforms for PSNK; (as is)

• allow all Uniforms for NO TRACES;

• allow only the Battle Dress for NO TRACES;

• allow only the Sneaking Suits for NO TRACES;

• allow only +3 defense Sneaking Suits for NO TRACES;

• ban all Uniforms for NO TRACES; (as is)

Items:

• allow all Items for PSNK;

• ban all Items but the Flare Grenade for PSNK;

• ban all Items for PSNK; (as is)

• allow all Items but the Flare Grenade for NO TRACES;

• ban all Items for NO TRACES; (as is)

Air Support:

• allow Air Support for PSNK;

• ban Air Support for PSNK; (as is)

• allow Air Support for NO TRACES;

• ban Air Support for NO TRACES; (as is)

Fire Support:

• allow all types of Fire Support for PSNK;
• allow some types of Fire Support for PSNK; (please elaborate)
• ban all types of Fire Support for PSNK; (as is)

Buddy Equipment:

• allow the F-Ballista for PSNK;
• ban the F-Ballista for PSNK; (as is)

Vote here! https://strawpoll.gg/poll_set/my-poll-set-102

We appreciate your time and contributions! If any clarification is needed just leave a comment.