Hi everyone. I've finally finished updating the old runs to reflect our new method of using in-game timers.

I'm terribly sorry to those of you who were just dethroned, I'm sure you can come back and fight for your titles!

This is just a fairer way of timing ourselves against each other, eliminating any hardware advantage. If you want to see the full new rules, check "New submission guidelines" in the Guides section.

Anyway, that's all - cheers everyone.

Okay, no problem. I'll get to work amending the categories, the rules and the times of every run sheesh hahah. Should be done soon. Sorry to dethrone you Jaggy, I'm sure you'll bring it back ;) I'm going to suggest you still time your runs as normal, and I'll include the timer as like an extra statistic - that way, you can see if you're losing time due to your matches, or due to something else like hardware/menuing.

Good chat friends :D

Failing that, I'm also happy to just cut load times out before approving your runs. Either or. What do you reckon?

For reference, I just checked the in game timers of the top three runs for WWF% and they are as follows:

Jaggy timers: Free roam: 01:52 (8 seconds) Match 1: 0:53 Match 2: 1:07 Match 3: 1:02

Total: 3:10

Ramsay timers: Free roam: 1:51 (9 seconds) Match 1: 0:51 Match 2: 0:42 Match 3: 1:04

Total 2:46

Tom's timers: Free roam: 1:49 (11 seconds) Match 1: 0:46 Match 2: 0:34 Match 3: 1:37

Total 3:08

If that's amenable to you two, I'd consider that a majority, and would be happy to adjust the leaderboard accordingly given some time, and update the rules. Rules would be as follows: "

Run is comprised of adding up all time spent in-game. This is: Sum of time spent in free roam + Sum of time spent in matches. Times are to be noted based on the in game timer shown in matches and in free roam. Remember that in free roam, the time is counting down.

"

Let me know what you think.

I guess the other way, is to make the speedrun based on cumulative match times, and the time spent free roaming - based on the time shown on the timer when the referee counts 3. Of course that removes the menu quickness, but we're all pretty rapid on the menus and doubt you save much time in them comparatively, by hammering X tbh.

It's tricky, cos there's not too many of us, and it'd be a nightmare trying to cut load times out of every video hahah. The only other way is to separate them into PS2 and Emulated categories, but then I don't think that's a great solution either. I guess the only way to make it proper fair is to remove load times, but how to implement that is another story.

Ramsay and I had a discussion about 100% and the idea is to stop people from being able to "start" the run having already unlocked stuff. We could make it so you have no memory card, but then it'll stop you from being able to use custom chars, which is a proper fun part of the game, and also a really great opportunity for run optimisation because selecting good moves and stats can really help you.

So, here's the solution!

At the beginning of a 100% run, you'll have to show that the "HIDDEN" screen in Story Mode is completely empty. These cards you unlock as you go through story mode (or in a few cases, slobber knocker) must all be locked before starting your run.

Show that this screen is empty, then select your first character, for either slobber knocker or story mode, and start your timer on selection. Then, once you have unlocked the final "HIDDEN" card, which should be either Shane or Stephanie McMahon or Both, you can stop the timer. By that, I mean when the game pops up with "You have unlocked the following hidden items:" and shows the stephanie mcmahon / shane card, you're done and can stop the timer. Then, go into "HIDDEN" and show every single card is unlocked.

You shouldn't be able to unlock Shane or Stephanie without unlocking everything else first so that'll be a good marker that you've finished.

Best of luck to anyone who's gonna attempt this, it's a real stamina test, and, in the case of my first attempt, a real test of the hardware (which crashed).

If anyone's got any questions about how to do it, or share any thoughts, feel free in this thread.

Cheers all.

Yeah fair enough. In that case it's best to assume you're going to incur a slight time loss from playing on real hardware and just deal with it 😂 So the rules remain the same and if you want to submit runs on emu they'll be counted as normal from now on

Alright mate? I never saw this, my bad. It's a tricky one. I think personally I'd say from now on we can pause timer on black screens and loading screens and saving, that seems to be the best way to optimise it, but it's still a pain to actually implement.

Hey man! You can totally speedrun these without glitches but the time will be pretty far from the top! So if you're aiming to just have fun with it, then go ahead - you can still enjoy speedrunning this game with your memory of where the goals are and what to do for them. I speedrun THUG 1 and my times are super super slow, but it's fun, so I don't really care.

So anyway, I'd recommend Underground on PS2 for sure, the story mode route is pretty easy to learn.

@Daravae is that "Require e-mail authentication"? Just enabled that. Cheers.

Hi there, I'd like to request to be added as a mod to WWF Smackdown! Just Bring It - I hate to go behind the mods like this, but both of them have been inactive for a very long time, and I can't get hold of them on their social media that's linked to their Speedrun profile - my pending runs have been pending for 28 days now. I'm happy to be added as a mod and am active enough to verify any new runners should they arrive. Thanks so much.