Friesland, NetherlandsCan we please put that comment somewhere that isn't reddit. Like in the guides section on SRR or something?
Calling it "ACE" doesn't make it any easier to explain, since it's still black magic technical wizardry going on in the background that a non-technical person will not be able to explain. In fact, it'll make it more difficult to explain because you have to explain what it isn't, then explain why it is called that when it isn't.
Please keep this thread to voting only. Discussion can be done in the thread linked: http://www.speedrun.com/gtavc/thread/47zgt/1#p1deq
Options in alphabetical order: A ) Keep calling it ACE (Arbitrary Code Execution) B ) SCS (Store Clerk Skip) (or a variant) C ) SPV (Safehouse Purchase + Vigilante) (or a variant) D ) SSU (Script Stack Underflow) E ) Other, please specify.
Everyone is welcome to vote, even people who don't run GTA or viewers.
Alright, so the term ACE has spread confusion, mostly among other speedrunners/TASers, leaving them actually disappointed that no ACE happened in the run. So I'm opening a poll. Link here: http://www.speedrun.com/gtavc/thread/q1cl1/1#xxt12 . This thread is for discussion to keep it away from votes. Here are the suggestions, with explanations:
SSU (Script Stack Underflow) A catch all term that names the glitch by its root. This is exactly what happens with the glitch. Counterarguments: It is a technical term and might scare people away from learning the game. (How? Why? Do they really care if they are?)
SCS (Store Clerk Skip) (or a variant) While the store clerk waiting stuff isn't the actual glitch itself, it merely affects it, and can be bypassed by using chopper checkpoint instead. It is the most recognizable thing about it. I suggest clarifying in the leaderboard rules that the CC method of doing it would also be disallowed, if this wins.
SPV (Safehouse Purchase + Vigilante) (or a variant) The actual glitch involves starting Vigilante while buying a safehouse, so to my understanding this also names the glitch by its roots.
Keep calling it ACE (Arbitrary Code Execution) Keep it as is, and keep confusing all the people with the inaccurate naming.
Nick: Link to said video? Edit @ below: Hashahaha, beautiful.
"That's what I've been saying for months, but people keep saying "stack underflow" is too "complicated" and "turns people away from learning the game" and "people shouldn't need a degree to understand speedrun categories""
Tempted to make multiple accounts just so I can like this
Game has a territory % counter. Just get it to 100%. Done. Use glitches to remove territories if needed.
Irrelevant. Badlands is only like 30 minutes too. Why not draw the line there
LV segment starts with NOE / Fender Ketchup (whichever is done first). Desert segment is Monster -> Learning To Fly. LV safehouses can't be purchased until after Learning To Fly, indicating that R¤ didn't quite want you to go there yet while doing the desert/tierra robada missions, marking a clear distinction between the two, just like how Badlands and San Fierro are different too. (same thing, cant buy SF houses until after AYGTSF)
If still going to include Desert segment within LV, then include Badlands segment within SF too, since game unlocked progress tracking variable doesn't actually increase after AYGSTF. it only does after Green Sabre, Yay Ka Boom Boom Boom, Saint Marks Bistro, and End Of The Line (also note: AHITH is part of RTSF going by this definition, not LV)
Please use one way of marking cities. either separate both badlands AND desert, or none of them.
Someone made a map already and put them on the old SDA forums, back when the idea of death and busted warps was implemented.
Link seems to be dead, would have to dig through there to find it
Since I have now finished all the heists and missions, I am now qualified to mod this game. So if whoever modded me here in the first place still needs that help, feel free to mod me again
Park a cop car so that if you were to exit it, you'd end up inside a save icon. Make sure it has no door. Press submission + look behind, get out and immediately back in so Tåmmy picks up the save icon but gets in the car before the save screen pops up. You will now teleport as would've happened had you picked it up in a replay, so let go of submission. Now youre on OM0 vigilante, so do the phonecall thing.
Derailing the thread again, sorry
KZ_FREW: all fair points, I understand your reasoning now. Thanks for clearing up your views
@MicroElf: 1) The key difference is the use of the hardware store. Waiting around the hardware store will affect JF dupe, CP dupe, etc in zero way, whereas it does affect the safehouse + vigilante, causing the warp to KYFC (or CTC, or G-Spotlight, or whatever the player wants.) Perhaps this could be stressed a bit more in the description.
- No, it wont. But I'm fine with not thinking about that unless something is actually discovered (even if it means having to go through this discussion AGAIN at that point.) 2b) Does saving even do anything in the run other than safety + moving the time? All strats involving the save icon are doable without, as far as I know. As for no replays, I am 99% sure CP dupe is possible without replays, just a lot more annoying, and even the KYFC warp might be (just a guess here.). So no replays could work as a category. I might try it actually. However, replays play smaller roles that don't involve duping (like reloading a gun) that I'm not sure people will want to go without?
