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thread: Dreams
New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish9 months ago

So, Tren just came out in Dreams, and has pretty big potential for speedrunning. It's quite a big game though (95 levels), so I think it warrants just getting its own game on srcom instead of being a category in Dreams. Figured I'd mention that here so we avoid setting up redundant boards.

New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish3 years ago

There could be, although the rules are a little up in the air at the moment (since there are co-op exclusive collectibles, should the entire run be co-op? Should there be a max-single-player% category?)

New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish3 years ago

I added an All Main Quests category (which is essentially what any% no create was before the overworld skips were discovered), as well as co-op boards!

New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish6 years ago

If people are interested, we can add an "all marbles" or "all levels" category. "No major skips" could be a bit arbitrary, because there are still some levels that have some pretty big skips aside from the 3 hub skips. For example:

If it's just "all marbles", then a viable strategy could still just be to get all 3 marbles and skip the 3 hero levels by doing the hub skip, so I think "all levels" would be a decent compromise. However, that would mean high stakes heist skip isn't allowed since you're technically not beating the level.

As for 100%, no one's really been that interested in the category in ¤any¤ of the LBP games, which is why we didn't add it to this one either. Especially since it'd require multiplayer, unless you can figure out how to enter/complete the multiplayer sections solo.

New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish7 years ago

We're actually planning on it, it's just a matter of when we decide to start. It should™ take less time to finish than the previous guides because a full run is so much shorter, though.

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New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish8 years ago

That category is for people who do runs like this on a non-updated version of the game:

Unfortunately it's been patched, though, so I'm not sure if it's possible anymore to do on PS4. You can delete patches on PS3 and play offline, though.

New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish8 years ago

Sorry for such a late response, but I figured I'd put this here anyway.

There are a few reasons a full segmented run doesn't exist. The biggest reason is probably that IL runs are the main "segmented" type of run; basically we just play a level over and over until we get a good run and then we upload that one run by itself and add it to the IL leaderboards (which are here: http://www.speedrun.com/lbp1/individual_levels ).

A truly great segmented run would be able to segment mid-level, like how a lot of the Sourceruns segmented runs are. Unfortunately, there's no way of saving mid-level in LBP :( So to emulate this, we'd have to run to the beginning of a segment mid-level, start recording, and try to run the segment. And if the attempt isn't perfect, in most cases we'd have to restart the ENTIRE level, then run to that one part and try it again. Some of the segmented/TAS style tricks in the game would take forever to pull off in this case.

Even if that weren't a major inconvenience, a lot of the levels are really cyclic, which is not good for a segmented run without save-states. If you can skip an extra cycle with a crazy segmented strat, then you're going to have a hard time resetting the next segment and attempting it in a way that the cycles will line up accurately in the full video. For example, in the beginning of the Bunker, there are some really tough tricks you can do to skip an extra cycle, which we'd probably explore in a segmented run or TAS. But even if we pulled off that first segment, the timing of the cycles later on in the level will have changed a ton, so figuring out how to run the later parts would be really difficult. Your only choice would be to basically run the entire level perfectly straight through since splicing mid-level would mess up the cycles.

Ideally, we could make a great segmented run if someone were to hack save states into the game. We could also wait 10 years for decent PS3 emulation, and just make a full-blown TAS (which would be AMAZING). But for now, the most accurate segmented run we could make would just be a bunch of IL world records, except quitting to the pod early at the end, with footage of the pod spliced in between.

In the meantime, here's a segmented run I did of a hard community level in LBP2 :)

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thread: The Site
New York City, NY, USARbdJellyfish9 years ago

Hi, I was submitting 2 player IL's and noticed that it only displays one of the partners' names on the level leaderboards list.

http://i.imgur.com/spvNtx7.png

I believe in the rightmost column it would make sense to show both names. Thanks!

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