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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

I was able to skip the second fight of level 1 somehow!! We need to study it, because it can become a nice time save if we can replicate it consistently.

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

I'm don't know every details of this glitch, but since I was able to replicate it during 2 runs, and I trained it a little bit more, I'm gonna add more details. When I'm gonna be sure how it works, I'll probably do a post in the "Guides" section.

It seems like it's a frame perfect trick. When you're facing a direction (Left or right), you have to try to grab a projectile with the hand in your back (the left hand if you're facing right, or the right hand if you're facing left). On the same frame, you have to grab the projectile, and being hit by it. After that, I'll be able to "punch" the boss infinitely with the projectile (or whatever it's in your hand. The sprite can be glitchy).

This trick is possible for sure against the third boss. The best way to perform it, is when the boss is moving on a horizontal line, because it's way easier to time it (It's still possible if it moves diagonally, but it's hard to time this frame perfect trick in this case, since the projectiles trajectories can be hard to predict). When you achieve it, don't worry about entering the boss hitbox. You'll probably have the time to destroy its hit points (which are in the number of 8 ) before the invinsibility frames ends.

Concerning the second boss, since it can also shoot projectiles, the trick might be possible as well, but I never tried it. So it's still to be tested.

Here is an example where I was able to perform this glitch in a run:

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

It could have been way better actually imo. It would have depended on the RNG for cards, and also not getting too many mini-games on the way to Sydney. Sub 9 wasn't impossible for sure, and maybe even lower, but we'll never know :/ Also, if it ended up being a 10:1X or 10:0X run, my PB is already 10:10 (Yeah, it's a WR for the official leaderboard when I write this post. I submitted it 4 days ago), so it wouldn't have been a huge improvement ^^'

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

During the first run of the stream, after getting the first 2 gems in Rio De Janeiro and San Francisco, and letting Porky Pig take the gem in Paris, I used the Royal Family's ring, before 3 minutes on the timer, to being teleported in a random city with Porky Pig. The RNG was insane. We got teleported to Kyoto, while the other gems were in Beijing and Sydney, so it was very close to our location. The plan was to steal Porky Pig's Paris gem by winning a duel, and go grabbing the last 2 gems. I don't know what time I could expect honestly, but if everything went right, even with bad cards RNG, I could have got an incredible run. It was until I faced Porky Pig. The mini-game was "The Pipe", which is heavily-RNG. If Porky Pig took the good pipe on first try, on a good pattern, it was over. And it's what happened... I would have loved to know how insane this run would have been if I could have finished it like I expected, but we'll never know xc

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

Hello!

I started running this game not long ago, and I really enjoy this speedrun. But I have a huge issue on the game very often. When I started running this game (in 1CPU category), I always chose Bugs Bunny for me, and Porky Pig for the CPU. After some runs, I realized I sometimes found myself in the same game as a previous one, which means: same placement at the beginning of the game for both players, same placement for the gems, and most importantly, exact same RNG for the cards (For instance, with one of those patterns, I got a Diamond 4 every time on first turn). To try to solve this issue, I started to choose another character for the CPU (Marc Antony at first), and it worked. And I was switching between Porky and Marc every runs. The issue is, I started to get the same issue at some point, even with this "strat". So I started to pick other characters for the CPU, and even other characters for me. But sometimes, it takes a good amount of tries before I get a new pattern, which is very boring. It's very annoying, because it's kinda bad for speedrunning I guess. You can remember every cards for you and the CPU, so you can plan your actions before a run. But also, the patterns can have bad RNG, so it's not always great. Anyway, I think it's a very annoying issue. I would to run this game more, but this issue is not helping me.

Did you have this problem before? What do you think about it? Is there a way to fix it?

And if it's actually some kind of RNG manipulation (I really have no idea of it's the case. I just know it exists for some games, depending on when you're pressing start at a certain point, or else, like some Pokemon speedruns), my interest for the game might decrease, because speedruns which are mostly based on RNG manipulation (Unlike The Little Mermaid on GB for instance, where you can manipulate RNG for certain bosses, but not all of them, and it's not the biggest part of the run anyway) are not my cup of tea.

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

Here is the current fastest way to complete level 2. Read the description of the video for more informations. However, keep in mind this happens randomly, so even if it's good to know this method, you'll probably use it extremely rarely during runs ^^'

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

Maybe you know the unicorn skip in level 2, which allows you to skip the first fight. While practicing this skip, sometimes, the unicorn gave me enough vertical velocity, to allow to "fly" above the level, and skip a big part of the level!

There is a lot of potential of this OOB, but for now, there is no consistent way to do it, and it seems to happen very rarely and randomly. So it can only happen if you are lucky, unless we find a way to do it consistently.

Here is a video to explain the current discoveries about this skip:

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles3 years ago

This happened during practice against the third boss.

Somehow, I was able to preserve the projectile I grabbed from the boss, and I continue hitting him with it indefinitively! I don't know how to reproduce it yet. I'll have to analyze it later, but if it can be reproduce during a run, it could save so much time!

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

I should add that I looked at quo's setting, to see if there is any difference. Every settings were the same, except for anti-aliasing. So I enabled it. I tried it on stream today, but nothing changed :(

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

Hello! I'm really hyped about continuing to run this game, but I found something which really bothers me >< I was comparing my actual PB (3:22), with the actual WR by quo (3:13). I realized, during the first cutscene, that there is some differences in the timings. The timer starts when you hit "start" on the main menu. During the cutscene, when the character emerges from the floor, there is a slight difference between both runs (on mine, it happens between 3 seconds and 3.5 seconds, and on quo's run, it's around 2.5). The biggest difference though, is when you take control of your character. On my run, it's around 36 seconds, and on quo's run, it's around 32.5 seconds. I haven't done more investigations for now (it's midnight in France when I write this, so i need to sleep ^^'). I won't be surprised if we found other differences. I don't know if it can be fixed, but it's annoying to compete with a disavantage :/

Both runs for comparison: https://www.speedrun.com/woodle_deluxe/run/zp3e0qnm https://www.speedrun.com/woodle_deluxe/run/y66kgw1y

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

Ok so. It doesn't work with level 6, but it works with level 5. So I'm ready to speedrun this game as soon as possible!

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

Ok I was actually considering testing this method tomorrow. Thanks again ^^

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

OK, I just noticed a very annoying thing, which will make speedrunning this game on stream painful (at least for me). When I do all steps, without exiting the game, it works as expected. However, if I finish all levels, collect 500 berries, THEN I exit the game, re-launch it, visit and exit extra level 2, and do the other steps, the glitch won't work (I'll just keep the upgrades). I don't know if I did something wrong, but currently, if I want to stream, I need to do step 2 before starting my stream, and keep the game open when i want to start my stream :/

Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

I'll be doing some testing soon. Hopefully I could run this category on Tuesday or Thursday. Thank you so much for this guide ^-^

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

Hello!

Since I want to run this game very soon, I was wondering how to do the Level Skip Glitch. The 2 different skips you mentionned work, but on @quo WR, he performed the skip earlier. Basically, after the cutscene at the beginning, he quit the game, and when he enter the game immediatly after, all levels (except level 7) are already unlock. He even have the headband and the last leaf upgrade.

I would really like to know how to perform this version of the skip, because I really want to start running "Any% - Level Skip Glitch". It could be a good way to practice level 6 and 7, before attempting the category without the Level Skip Glitch.

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

Wow thanks! They look great! I just added them :)

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

I haven't run All Coins since a long time, but having power up can help you getting coins, since it makes Bernie's hitbox larger. You can also use a power up to damage boost on 4-1, during the area with the 2 pipemen. With the invincibility frames, you can continue the level and grab the coins in this area, instead of waiting (you can't do the late jump, since you have several coins to grab).

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

I saw some peoples are starting to receive notifications again. It's still not the case for me :/ Someone got a WR on a game I follow today, and I only saw it on the main page.

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

I haven't receive any notifications since 5 days.

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Basse-Normandie, FranceMsTruffles4 years ago

Hello. I am requesting moderator for Rot Gut leaderboard: https://www.speedrun.com/rotgut I've submitted a run 3 weeks ago, which hasn't been verified since: https://www.speedrun.com/rotgut/run/y2de5q5z The last moderator to login did so 6 months ago, and there is no social media on which I can contact them (except one who have a Youtube account, which isn't a good way to contact someone). It looks like a dead board, or maybe other runners had submitted runs, which haven't been verified as well. If I become a moderator for this game, I could see if there are other runs which need verification. Thank you!

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