French Southern Territories[quote]Can we stop talking about visual novels now?[/quote] As long as conversation stays civil there's no reason to. I know you're only here to farm forum posts but discussion about stuff like this is why the forums are here in the first place.
[quote]Mods if you're out there just start adding visual novels.[/quote] There are plenty of visual novels already on the site, and there are no rules prohibiting visual novels in the game request rules. As already explained, there are many visual novels that have interesting mechanics that make for more complicated speedruns. However, in your case the game is just waiting for long periods of time with the only gameplay elements being choosing the optimal choice every now and then, which doesn't meet the site's standards for optimization, which is probably why it was rejected.
[quote]edit: your bio "Video games are evil, go to the gym, start a business." screams "I'm an epic sigma male" [/quote] This is obviously because mango man is an epic sigma male.
As someone who has been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder I would like to say that what mango is saying is true. It's hard but you have to try and step out of your comfort zone sometimes or you're never going to get better at talking to people. Small steps are important. You can do it
@CyanWes having friends and family who can support you is one of the best ways to combat depression.
Social anxiety can be debilitating, but it isn't an excuse to not have any friends, and if you choose to never interact with people you'll never become more comfortable in social situations. And you can always improve your social skills even if you aren't good at talking to people at first.
[quote]Also, reading (or in speedrunning's sake, skipping) text, and making choices that determine the final outcome of the game, is, objectively gameplay. These claims that there is no gameplay in visual novels are just stemming people's personal ideas of what video-gameplay should be considered.[/quote] People are making these claims because the gameplay can't be optimized. Speedrun.com's rules say that games need to have room for optimization to be added to the site, which makes sense because otherwise we'd get a lot more "NES Home Alone"-like games on the site. The "gameplay" of a typical visual novel doesn't lend itself to speedrunning, because the games would just be autoscrollers with mashing and a couple of timings maybe.
However, if you know of a VN that has interesting glitches, skips, or mechanics I would genuinely LOVE to see your run of it. I'm not necessarily opposed to VNs being added, it's just that most of them don't meet the standard for the site. But even a simple, minor glitch could raise the skill ceiling for the game and make the execution of the run more complex than just mashing skip. So post your run, we won't "shit" on it.
The best way to convince people that VNs can make for interesting/fun speedruns is to show us.
[quote]This is because full game and IL notifications seem to of been merged into a single notifications option[/quote] This was a terrible decision. Why on earth would they do that lol
It's not really choice making if you know the optimal choice ahead of time. VNs are not like Minecraft where you have to think on the fly. Just pick the option with less dialogue.
Also, this does not change the fact that you can just hold down a button to skip through text, making every single speedrun one long autoscroller with no actual gameplay.
If a VN has glitches/gameplay elements other than just being a virtual book, then there is a very good chance that site staff will accept the game as long as you give a description explaining that. That has already been pointed out to you earlier in this thread. Virtual novels are not explicitly banned in the game requests rules. They just usually get rejected for not having potential for optimization.
If you REALLY care about this, then set up your own site like you said you might, and/or speedrun any of the several VN games that have already been added to speedrun.com. This is not a big deal at all.
A good speedgame is when the speed at which you progress through the game is determined solely by mashing?
Since this thread keeps getting bumped, I want to remind people that I'm making a list of notable speedrunning events this year so that when 2024 happens, we can make a recap/rewind that's actually good. Here's the link to the doc, anyone can suggest things to add so if you want to help you can.
Here's a list of all the most popular web games for speedrunning right now: https://www.speedrun.com/games#platform=Web&orderby=mostactive&unofficial=off Pick one of these and you're basically guranteed to find a game with an active community.
Of the top 50 active web games right now, I personally recommend .S, Grey-Box Testing, Celeste Classic 2, and Choppy Orc.
Notifications about pending runs and your runs being beaten still work, but the notifications most people care about like world records, top 3 runs, forums, and guides don't work
@MrSpeedrun what are you talking about? There are tons of games that use TA timing on the leaderboards, notably Sonic 2, Karlson 3D, and Mike Tyson's Punch Out. Different communities have different rules for different reasons.
I can't think of any rules in speedruns that are "set in stone" except for maybe "don't cheat"
Also, even if something is set in stone you can still have opinions on it. Imo TA runs should be allowed in most long categories, and games that use TA timing should set time limits for how long breaks can be.
CHAPTER II
Anna Pávlovna’s drawing room was gradually filling. The highest Petersburg society was assembled there: people differing widely in age and character but alike in the social circle to which they belonged. Prince Vasíli’s daughter, the beautiful Hélène, came to take her father to the ambassador’s entertainment; she wore a ball dress and her badge as maid of honor. The youthful little Princess Bolkónskaya, known as la femme la plus séduisante de Pétersbourg, was also there. She had been married during the previous winter, and being pregnant did not go to any large gatherings, but only to small receptions. Prince Vasíli’s son, Hippolyte, had come with Mortemart, whom he introduced. The Abbé Morio and many others had also come.
To each new arrival Anna Pávlovna said, “You have not yet seen my aunt,” or “You do not know my aunt?” and very gravely conducted him or her to a little old lady, wearing large bows of ribbon in her cap, who had come sailing in from another room as soon as the guests began to arrive; and slowly turning her eyes from the visitor to her aunt, Anna Pávlovna mentioned each one’s name and then left them.
Each visitor performed the ceremony of greeting this old aunt whom not one of them knew, not one of them wanted to know, and not one of them cared about; Anna Pávlovna observed these greetings with mournful and solemn interest and silent approval. The aunt spoke to each of them in the same words, about their health and her own, and the health of Her Majesty, “who, thank God, was better today.” And each visitor, though politeness prevented his showing impatience, left the old woman with a sense of relief at having performed a vexatious duty and did not return to her the whole evening.
The young Princess Bolkónskaya had brought some work in a gold-embroidered velvet bag. Her pretty little upper lip, on which a delicate dark down was just perceptible, was too short for her teeth, but it lifted all the more sweetly, and was especially charming when she occasionally drew it down to meet the lower lip. As is always the case with a thoroughly attractive woman, her defect—the shortness of her upper lip and her half-open mouth—seemed to be her own special and peculiar form of beauty. Everyone brightened at the sight of this pretty young woman, so soon to become a mother, so full of life and health, and carrying her burden so lightly. Old men and dull dispirited young ones who looked at her, after being in her company and talking to her a little while, felt as if they too were becoming, like her, full of life and health. All who talked to her, and at each word saw her bright smile and the constant gleam of her white teeth, thought that they were in a specially amiable mood that day.
The little princess went round the table with quick, short, swaying steps, her workbag on her arm, and gaily spreading out her dress sat down on a sofa near the silver samovar, as if all she was doing was a pleasure to herself and to all around her. “I have brought my work,” said she in French, displaying her bag and addressing all present. “Mind, Annette, I hope you have not played a wicked trick on me,” she added, turning to her hostess. “You wrote that it was to be quite a small reception, and just see how badly I am dressed.” And she spread out her arms to show her short-waisted, lace-trimmed, dainty gray dress, girdled with a broad ribbon just below the breast.
“Soyez tranquille, Lise, you will always be prettier than anyone else,” replied Anna Pávlovna.
“You know,” said the princess in the same tone of voice and still in French, turning to a general, “my husband is deserting me? He is going to get himself killed. Tell me what this wretched war is for?” she added, addressing Prince Vasíli, and without waiting for an answer she turned to speak to his daughter, the beautiful Hélène.
“What a delightful woman this little princess is!” said Prince Vasíli to Anna Pávlovna.
One of the next arrivals was a stout, heavily built young man with close-cropped hair, spectacles, the light-colored breeches fashionable at that time, a very high ruffle, and a brown dress coat. This stout young man was an illegitimate son of Count Bezúkhov, a well-known grandee of Catherine’s time who now lay dying in Moscow. The young man had not yet entered either the military or civil service, as he had only just returned from abroad where he had been educated, and this was his first appearance in society. Anna Pávlovna greeted him with the nod she accorded to the lowest hierarchy in her drawing room. But in spite of this lowest-grade greeting, a look of anxiety and fear, as at the sight of something too large and unsuited to the place, came over her face when she saw Pierre enter. Though he was certainly rather bigger than the other men in the room, her anxiety could only have reference to the clever though shy, but observant and natural, expression which distinguished him from everyone else in that drawing room.
“It is very good of you, Monsieur Pierre, to come and visit a poor invalid,” said Anna Pávlovna, exchanging an alarmed glance with her aunt as she conducted him to her.
Pierre murmured something unintelligible, and continued to look round as if in search of something. On his way to the aunt he bowed to the little princess with a pleased smile, as to an intimate acquaintance.
Anna Pávlovna’s alarm was justified, for Pierre turned away from the aunt without waiting to hear her speech about Her Majesty’s health. Anna Pávlovna in dismay detained him with the words: “Do you know the Abbé Morio? He is a most interesting man.”
“Yes, I have heard of his scheme for perpetual peace, and it is very interesting but hardly feasible.”
“You think so?” rejoined Anna Pávlovna in order to say something and get away to attend to her duties as hostess. But Pierre now committed a reverse act of impoliteness. First he had left a lady before she had finished speaking to him, and now he continued to speak to another who wished to get away. With his head bent, and his big feet spread apart, he began explaining his reasons for thinking the abbé’s plan chimerical.
“We will talk of it later,” said Anna Pávlovna with a smile.
And having got rid of this young man who did not know how to behave, she resumed her duties as hostess and continued to listen and watch, ready to help at any point where the conversation might happen to flag. As the foreman of a spinning mill, when he has set the hands to work, goes round and notices here a spindle that has stopped or there one that creaks or makes more noise than it should, and hastens to check the machine or set it in proper motion, so Anna Pávlovna moved about her drawing room, approaching now a silent, now a too-noisy group, and by a word or slight rearrangement kept the conversational machine in steady, proper, and regular motion. But amid these cares her anxiety about Pierre was evident. She kept an anxious watch on him when he approached the group round Mortemart to listen to what was being said there, and again when he passed to another group whose center was the abbé.
Pierre had been educated abroad, and this reception at Anna Pávlovna’s was the first he had attended in Russia. He knew that all the intellectual lights of Petersburg were gathered there and, like a child in a toyshop, did not know which way to look, afraid of missing any clever conversation that was to be heard. Seeing the self-confident and refined expression on the faces of those present he was always expecting to hear something very profound. At last he came up to Morio. Here the conversation seemed interesting and he stood waiting for an opportunity to express his own views, as young people are fond of doing.
sorry for bumping this
I'm pretty sure that playing with a wider monitor or with the game zoomed out saves time by letting you hit the enemies sooner at the ending wall.
Comparing my PB and the WR, I am .233 behind sloth going into the vaccine section, but sloth kills the first virus at the ending wall .4 seconds ahead of me. Using the clouds in the background as a visual cue, you can see that sloth is much further back than I am when he hits the virus. My ending was faster than his, but the .4 second difference allowed him to beat me by that much.
I originally joined the site to submit my runs of Mobility, which I had already been running for months before I signed up. So I guess it either took me technically no time at all to find a game, or like a year of actively doing speedruns before I found one. I still do runs of Mobility to this day, 3 years later.
I do want to say that it's perfectly fine to get bored with a game. You don't have to grind runs if you don't want to. There are plenty of games out there to keep you from getting bored even if you only do 1-2 runs per game.
