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Hey, thought I'd start a discussion on separating the 2 for separate categories for a more organized board. Plus allowing those who can't quite get the timing right with the glitch a decent spot on the leaderboard. What do you guys think? |
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It would almost seem strange for such a short game to have 2 very short categories. Although for a lot of these short games "1 Loop glitchless", or "No OOB", or something like that seems to be a fairly normal category. I am sure it would be doable by the mods if they allow it. At that point though, you and your PB are really just battling against RNG. So I guess I am not opposed to it, I just don't see myself submitting to it. |
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I'm usually against having multiple categories for a short games, but of course if there's enough intresst in it I am happy to add another category I guess. Or I could just make a really fast guide explaining how to get the glitch to work(think the current guide is like 20min, and haven't watched it, but could make a 5min guide if that would help?), which the current wr strat and the next natural step for it? Like Merrik said, a glitchless would just be "Oh do I get the perfect rng" vs glitched that actually determines how fast you can do the glitch. But again, if the intresst is there I will gladly add another category. |
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A shorter guide is actually not a bad Idea. Despite the current guide being solid, it was more designed (if I remember correctly) for the BIG20, and showed a lot of safety starts, as well as glitchless strats as well. A non-marathon safe guide would be a pretty good idea, especially just showing the first wrap/glitch. If you made it short and sweet, it would probably get more people willing to try it. |
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So I will make a recording when my new computer arrives(this weekend hopefully), and just going through the current wr strat and the natural progression from it. I believe anyone can do a sub 30 time once they get the glitch down with the right rng(and we are speaking 10-15min rng grinding). |
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You say that, and it makes we want to grind down my time to sub 30. haha. |
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Will post here as well not to make a new topic: How do you guys feel about joypad(dpad/joystick) vs keyboard? in the current state(no tas walk, don't even know if it's possible by a human) there's really no hard advantage I believe. Where it would be is the LEFT to RIGHT movement while performing glitch, but it's one sequent every 0.5-1sec while performing it, so I don't think it gives any advantage beside maybe a bit more concistency on keyboard. My vote goes to not seperating it currently at least, but keep monitering and maybe gather more information from older/more knowledgeble runners. maybe 1 frame between left/right input isn't possible on Dpad/joystick(pretty sure it is on dpad with the grip I use for urban champion, but could be wrong), but most certenly are with keyboard. |
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Doing a glitchless speedrun for Urban Champion sounds interesting |
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