Regarding tools/macros/etc
7 years ago
Brazil

I'm new to the whole speedrunning thing, so... Are you guys ok with some kind of tool-assisted category here, or should I go for tasvideos.org instead?

Also, how do you guys plan on verifying if a run is tool-assisted or not for this game?

Iowa, USA

Hey there, I am cool with a tool-assisted category. I am really looking forward to seeing it actually :)

As far as how to verify if it's tool assisted or not I'm not quite sure and open to suggestions. I recognize that my game is fairly easy to make a macro for since every level is the same every time you play it and the movements are only up, down, left, right. I suppose if the gameplay looked inhumanly consistent and at the max speed it would raise a red flag.

PackSciences might have input on this as he has more experience with speedrunning.

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French Southern Territories

It can be set as a miscancellous variable I guess. Miscancellous because it's not very legit. Do you have runs to show ?

Note : By experience, I can tell you that your run is going to be denied on tasvideos.org

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Brazil

@PackSciences [1] I'm on level 69 now. Will try to finish a proper run ASAP. Although, I feel tool-assisted runs in this case should probably consider just the sum of IGTs. [2] I had such feeling, but as I've not been much into speedrunning before, can you elaborate on that "imminent denial"?

French Southern Territories

"Although, I feel tool-assisted runs in this case should probably consider just the sum of IGTs. " Of course why wouldn't it be ? The term 'tool-assisted runs' is a very reserved term. I recommend you to use the word 'macro-assisted' or 'scripted'. TAS is reserved for speedruns that emulate the computer behavior (even when not necessary) or makes so that the technology used fills some precised things.

What I said is that of course macro-assisted runs can't be in the same category as legit runs, so I propose to hide a variable so that the legit run show directly, but if you click on the options of the leaderboard, the macro-assisted can appear. This way, people can see legit runs directly, but can see macro-assisted too if they want to know deeper about it.

Brazil

I understood when you said about putting it into Miscellaneous. I agree 100%. Thanks for clarifying the "TAS" aspect. I'll watch more carefully how I label things. :)

Back to the topic, I'm curious: is there a recommended/usual way you guys use to verify if a run used macros or not?

French Southern Territories

Knowledge of the game physics. It's usually obvious.

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