Why isn't there an any% glitchless
1 month ago
United States

I'm pretty new to speedrun.com, but I don't understand why SMO has no any% glitchless. Most other games have it so I just want to understand.

George_in_Gorge likes this
Orlando, FL, USA

theres no real glitches big enough to warrent a glitchless catagorey

Ohio, USA

Idk, probably bcuz its slower, but it might make for a good category idea!

Orlando, FL, USA

Also a lot of tech would fuzz the lines like is dss a glitch your not supposed to be able to do it but it’s not going out of bounds or using any options that the game didn’t intend for you to use same with spewartless snow dram and moon cave skip

MTsocks and George_in_Gorge like this
New South Wales, Australia

yeah its just that any% doesnt really have any glitches

Basque Country

there is in general not a lot of competitive interest for the category, it has been talked before, but the general take is taht it just wouldn't be as different and would just influence top level runs, and is hard to set a line on what or what not is supposed to get banned for glitchless

Noah_SMO likes this
Ohio, USA

Also it would allow beginner runners (like myself) have a chance to be higher up on the leaderboards, but I think it would have to be in the cat. extensions.

Basque Country

by pure definition, if you are a beginner runner, is spected to be lower on the leaderboard over the better players, which also wouldn't necesary change with that new leaderboard

not sure how some would feel about segregating "the same category for different skills", when you can just go to the main leaderboard and not realy have to care about glitches until you get the level for it

AntoineXVI, SMOFan_5 and 4 others like this
Śląskie, Poland

Skill level doesnt matter, any% leaderboards should be combined unless theres a rly hard trick that saves like 10 years

Kalaphant, SMOFan_5 and 3 others like this
England

Un less there is a massive glitch where you like roll cancel clip on top of a school bus while commiting taxovaision while on a camel, I don’t think there will be glitch less Catagory for glitchless, seeming that all the best runners will just go there to nab a world record it’s like resetting the any% leader board (also there’s like 6 glitches, non including hard jumps like klepto skip, n the any% speed run anyway

Edited by the author 1 month ago
Kalaphant likes this
Śląskie, Poland

HARD JUMPS LIKE KLEPTO SKIP

Śląskie, Poland

Brother its 0.5/10

SMOFan_5 likes this
Ohio, USA

Some people think it's hard (don't judge them) and there are harder variants like cap return jumping off the tree or vaulting.

Kalaphant and AntoineXVI like this
Basque Country

is also not a very good comparision to apply on RTA speedrun given the absurd amount of time top trickjumpers can spend doing level 10 trickjumps

i think snow dram is like a 3.5/10 or smth lol

Edited by the author 1 month ago
Kalaphant likes this
Scotland

To reiterate what's already been said, and the general consensus of the community, glitchless just doesn't fit smo as there aren't really that many glitches in runs. For example, if we implemented a no Out of Bounds ruleset for any% that would essentially limit everyone to the intermediate routes at best for Sand, Lake and Wooded. It would also force a slower version of the beginner route for Seaside.

England

Also the main fun of it is learning these cool new glitches and performing then in a run

SMOFan_5 likes this
Ohio, USA

Not for everyone.

England

Ok but if it does get added I personally think it should be to the cat. Extensions just as a little side section of the main any% runs

Ohio, USA

Same, but I don't think it will be added.

England

Also when I said hard trick jump I wasn’t saying it was hard I was just stating there are trick jumps that wouldn’t count as glitches most of it is just good routing and movement not incredibly hard jumps and tricks