Would there be any interest in adding a Misc category for handgun only? I just tested a run myself using only NG items/weapons on Casual difficulty (LEMI, M1911, V61) Also only used Chris's pistol during his segment and to defeat Urius Strajer (only used laser targeting device on the building before) There would obviously exceptions for using other weapons like the pipe bomb for certain situations, much like the knife only run. Ammo was tight after defeating Dimitrescu & Miranda so I'm not sure anything above Casual is possible.

If upgrades were allowed and maybe throw in the magnum other difficulties may be possible. Highly doubt any other difficulty is possible with the rules ive been using below

Been running casual new game no merchant handgun only(lemi and m19 and the single upgrade you find for each)

Mirandas section drops random handgun ammo. Quite a bit on casual anyway and The final part of her fight is free(wrapped in tenticles.) You need zero ammo leading into it.

I've been routing Casual HG only so far. I only use handguns for everything except where you are forced to use something else (Heisenburg fight, the targeting laser, ect.) I don't open boxes with knifes, I just pray it's HG ammo or money. I haven't done anything above casual but I can see Normal being done HG only. I agree that magnum might be necessary above that. I HIGHLY doubt that VoS can be completed HG only, but I would love to proved wrong lol.

I love running HG only, I did it for RE2R/3R and I would love for it to be a CE run here.

Magnum should be allowed in all difficulties same for upgrades since its pistol only and pretty sure a magnum is a pistol. Unless ofc people wouldnt want the magnum in the lower difficulty ones cus of the damage it does but i would say for ease to just allow all pistols and upgrades.

The magnum in re3r was allowed. So who knows.

I use the knife on the boxes as i am pretty sure youre prompted to use the knife on them even if you dont have the knife so why not? Will you have to reset if you accidently press the prompt?

The only thing i do that i would think may need to be changed is using a pipe bomb for red chimney skip. I dont use pipe bombs on factory doors but i was thinking of it. May be needed in higher difficulties. A lot of wasted ammo on them and moreau gates. Like 50 bullets.

Using capacity upgrades on lemi will help the waste if upgrades are allowed.

I would enjoy this run. Magnum and upgrades should be allowed. It’s possible but very tight on ammo.

I could see a NG+ game for the higher difficulties.

I believe chris' section will be the wall on difficulties beyond casual. Even for ng+.

From the handgun only hardcore ive ran everything takes more then double the ammo on hardcore. I dont think i can obtain more than double the ammo for urias2 for hardcore.

If there was to be a Handgun only category, it would probably be on casual and only use base guns like the Lemi for Ethan and the Usmai for Chris. I dont see why the revolver should be allowed in such a category.

It was argued in past RE games that the magnum is technically a handgun. Which passed in re3r.

Also its normal to use the weaker pistol until the more powerful pistol is available which in this games case. Use the lemi until you get the m19.

Of course its a different time.

@nicowithaC In the past all handguns have been allowed for HG only and RE runs, and while the magnum is iffy, it might be necessary for harder difficulties. Just allowing the Lemi doesn't make much sense really, all handguns should be allowed that aren't NG+ items, so the lemi, 1911, and the V61.

Personally i don't have much experience with handgun only runs at all. But i would say a magnum and a handgun arent the same thing since the magnum has different bullets. That's just my take tho.

I agree. I was iffy about it being a thing in RE3R but meh. I would probably only run HG only on casual/normal anyways, where it isn't needed. I'm not even sure you could finish VoS with the HG and the magnum, there isn't enough ammo unless I'm not aware of where it is, I missed it in my first playthrough lamo.

All that being said, I'm glad I'm not the only one interested in HG only and putting work in to route it.

I thought it was odd the magnum was allowed in RE3R. I didnt think of using it until it was official.

So far this game until recently i was running no merchant no magnum. I dont really think upgrades should be allowed either. On PC it will probably be slower upgrading unless your quick. Im saving 2 mins on console upgrading.

I still believe Chris' part will kill hardcore+

Upgrading would save time in the long run, not fully upgrading probably though. I've been fully upgrading the Lemi and the 1911, but when I switch over to the V61 I do firerate and firepower mostly.

I really don't see the point in banning upgrades, even if they are somehow slower. If they are slower then just don't do them.

I'm not sure Standard was possible on RE3R without the mag and different difficulties within the same category should have the same rule set. I think Standard needs to be tested first but if the only difficulty for HG Only was Casual then I think it shouldn't include the magnum, as it felt like a pretty good run skipping it and it made Sturm at least semi challenging to do quickly, rather than just blasting him in a few seconds with the mag. It all depends what role the mag would play on Standard, if the difference between Standard being possible or not based on mag pickup then maybe. I think Hardcore might be a no go regardless, not even sure you'd make it past Moreau anyway.

I'm pretty sure you can do standard without it, it just sucks. There is a great place to lower DA at the nemmy bridge chase. Anyways, I think the magnum needs to stay out of this period. Even if you can do Hardcore/VoS with it, would you want to? It sounds horrible to do lol. I get the feeling that Casual/Normal would be the main runs for HG only anyways. I haven't done Normal HG only yet, but I imagine it's tight but doable.

ATM I try making a VoS new Game with HG's only. I Avoid buy anything besides HG's and the upgrades (even blueprints for mines/bombs). Lets see how far its possible though. But in my opinion there should be allowed only weapons that use HG ammo. So no magnum. I use only bombs and mines i can find in the game, cause completly without i would not wanna run tbh xD. Upgrades should be allowed (definitely). But as far as i played (until urias atm) there should not be anything else needed in casual/normal. PS: at some moments i use the knife (e.g moreau) cause otherwise it would be completly not possible, cause there is simply not enough ammo in the game, at least at VoS. Dont know about normal/casual though.

If anyone can get through chris' section handgun only beyond standard please post about it here. No knife.

Man this would be such a fun category to run. Only guns that fire handgun ammo + explosives seems like the way to go.

Only found explosives or should we be able to craft them?

Would think explosives wouldnt be allowed(however used in the same way as in a knife only run) defeats the purpose of handgun only. Using the magnum makes more sense.

But if they are allowed. If you can use the merchant(upgrades) you should be able to buy explosives.