"China" version and "Japan" version difference in Biohazard 3 PC
7 years ago
United Kingdom

[quote]"Since we're talking about the board, this means that by not placing something on the board, you're not participating in the board, which is where the rules of this board and the runners who submit runs to it are decided."[/quote]

My point was that running a game and personal besting in a game are two entirely different things. You place only PBs on the boards, not all your runs. You could be running this game for months straight multiple times a week and not land a single PB, and thus not have a time to submit to the boards.

So, what you are implying is that you can only have an opinion of validity on how the boards are managed if you are constantly submitting Personal Best times to the leaderboard.

Otherwise, like I asked, how are you judging if someone in active in a game? Are you really judging it by the frequentness of their PBs submitted on SRC?

@Orchlon I think I understand where you're coming from. Though, looking at it from the perspective of the mods, they had quite a few Japanese runners (coupled with the runners who disagreed with TWN and Japanese being merged as well) who flat out weren't happy with how the boards were structured, prior to the separation. People who were pretty much in your shoes right now. You aren't happy with the boards right now, as well as a lot of other people. However, at the end of the day the Mods have to make a decision and hopefully make a decision that can at least please most people. Either they piss off you and some other runners or, or they piss another group of runners off. I mean, ideally, none of the PC versions would be separated. It is what it is though, you can't please everyone and someone has to get the bad end of the stick. A lot of the people who disagreed before just either weren't vocal about it, or they just dealt with it and continued running the game.

One goal for the separation, really, was keeping Japanese runners integrated with our community. The Japanese have always kinda just done things separately in the past. They either stuck entirely to Nico, or they had their own 'RTA' boards. Most in the past had used Turbo, also, because this wasn't one of their rules. It was only over some steady integration and work that the Japanese were sort of brought into ours and we all universally started playing by the same ruleset and so forth. It is kind of a selfish reason for separation on top of everything else, admittedly, but it's potentially good for the longevity of the game. Even if there are two categories of the same platform and multiple records, etc.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Mongolia

Who were those japanese runners that complained? Was it Albirex, or Pekoron? Was it Poppo the free WR hunter? or please don't tell me it was komakino. Besides, did the mods try explaining that the difference was too minimal to justify a separation? What was the reason for their unhappiness? Were they mad that they were losing time due to the version differences? I wouldn't buy that because no japanese runners were good enough for 15 seconds to make a difference, also, did the mods point out there was a perfectly working filter function on the boards? Were they people who for some reason choose not to run the chinese version for arbitrary reason despite having access? I would say get over it, they're exactly the same except faster text. I don't know the answer to these questions because the mods both lack transparency and then not consult the actual community before making these changes.

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United Kingdom

An issue was that it's a considerable time difference in their eyes, even if it's a pretty small difference, and from their perspective it cannot be obtained on the market anywhere close to easy through legal means for the most part.

A Japanese runner called Keny got around to actually ordering the EA version online from an auction, it was pretty much the exact same case, disc and everything. But when he actually tried to run the game it wouldn't work. After he had extracted the files it appears that they had been tampered with beforehand and that this wasn't a legitimate version of the game, as the base .ISO was missing several files. One could assume someone just burned the files onto a disc and tried to sell it online/it was bootleg, etc but they did a bad job and the game wouldn't even launch. This is just one example, and one person attempting, however. Obviously a greater attempt could be put forth by every Japanese runner to locate this version legitimately, but this was one of the contributing factors on top of everything else that was adding to the Japanese playerbase complaint.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Norway

Im from year 400, but wtf is going on in here? ???

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Japan

This is my personal opinion, please understand that it is not representative of other Japanese runners.

Also, since I do not use English on a daily basis, I think that I am sorry if I have written extraordinary things.

First, I would like to respect the feelings of Taiwan version runners, with Orchlon as the lead.

In reality, I think that Taiwan version of the runners are leading the current Resident Evil3's Speedrun.

It is clear if you look at the recent participants and the update frequency of records.

Especially Orchlon's recent runs are wonderful. Representative Japanese runners also have a respect for him.

Secondly, as Liv says, I myself have purchased a Taiwan version at auction in Taiwan, but the trouble in operation has already been resolved and it is available.

The default folder of the installation destination seemed to be garbled, so changing to the same folder name as in the Japanese version was the cause of the problem.

Taiwan's auction is difficult for Japanese to handle, purchasing Taiwan version is not common, so I was not able to spread with my information dissemination so far, but yesterday again for Japanese people , Taiwan version exhibition information and more specific information of the purchasing agency was released at nico nico blomaga.

Interest in Japanese Taiwan version is getting stronger recently, so I think that contributing my information to entering the Taiwan version of Japan at least somewhat.

For Taiwanese auctions, a lot of Taiwan versions are exhibited that are inferior compared to the Japanese media kite version, so especially for Japanese who want to newly enter Resident Evil 3, Taiwan version of I do not think the challenge will be disadvantageous.

I myself will enter the Japanese version of 44 minutes in 22 seconds. After achieving that record, I would like to challenge the Taiwan version.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Mongolia

Okay Keny, how much trouble was it exactly for you to obtain a taiwanese version, like how much money did you spent and how long did it take for you to get the disc in your hands? Do you think it'll be much trouble for other japanese runners to obtain the taiwanese version, especially if a runner is committed enough, because I believe if japanese runners can reasonably obtain the taiwanese version, the only reason for this split is invalid and should be undone.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
United States

BabyRage 2.0 May I see a receipt of purchase for your game sir ? wdncN

Zero likes this

It's a computer game lads, put your controllers down, and lets go for a few beers

Japan

@Orchlon

The amount was not that much. I think it was around $ 75.

However, since the Taiwan version has an impression that started with the use of "illegal" copies from the Japanese perspective, I think that the psychological entry barriers are bigger than the amount.

Actually operating Taiwan version impression, I think that there is considerable advantage over the Japanese version at the speed of item operation. In addition to saying that the speed is simply fast, when I took the battery of the city hall, the Taiwan version saw breakthrough as easy as the zombie advancement distance was reduced. Advantage of several seconds or more will occur due to individual creation, so I think the Japanese version runner will be pretty disadvantageous.

Regarding the fact that the Japanese version and Taiwan version are different games, I agree.

William_Neves likes this
Germany

Is the debate about the taiwanese version being fake still going on :D ? Sorry, if not, I didn't take the time to read the numerous comments on the topic xD

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Russia

They just have nothing to do, then type here about FAKE no FAKE bla bla bla version

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