Medallions practice
4 years ago
São Paulo, Brazil

Hey beautiful people of this community, how are you guys and gals doing?

So, my question for you today is:

How do you people go about practicing medallions? Do you even have practice sessions only for that?

I'm trying to create efficient practice sessions (based on this img, if anyone didn't see it yet: https://i.imgur.com/oazAqf6.jpg), at it's core the idea of the practice session is to just memorize/gain muscle memory of the two figures where i should turn down the dials, and them the rest i just default to turning up. That's the little mental algorithm i'm trying to "teach" my brain.

The problem is that the RNG of the puzzles seems to roll once you start the game or with some unknown trigger from the beginning of the game; so saves doesn't help much since you're always getting the same combinations and can't really practice reacting to the figures you see.

Thuringia, Germany

I don't practice the medallions, because i always had the feeling, that the (starting) positions of the symbols are random every time. But are they?

Edited by the author 4 years ago
vinev likes this
São Paulo, Brazil

@ReportWroteByLeon yes, they are! The starting positions are always random, but as you can see in the img, unless you get the one that's exactly in the middle, you can always save time (and it's a decent ammount, assuming a scenario were you react perfectly) if you go in the right direction. Up until now in my runs i've been just blindly turning them down and praying for the RNG gods, but now i really want a way to practice and get consistent with reacting to the figures to know which way to turn it.

Thuringia, Germany

Oh, i didn't know that. Maybe i practice this too, once i optimized my other strats and routes. Thanks for the tip

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vinev likes this
Texas, USA

I don’t personally practice medallions, but it would obviously help if you could remember the order of symbols. Just play the game and you’ll eventually know how to execute your inputs swiftly. Also, RNG is another factor to take into consideration since the order of symbols are random in each run.

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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

"at it's core the idea of the practice session is to just memorize/gain muscle memory of the two figures where i should turn down the dials, and them the rest i just default to turning up". I do exactly the same thing, except I memorize the two figures I should press up.

But I don't know what you're talking about the saves giving you the same combinations. That doesn't happen to me. What I did was: without touching any of the statues, kill every enemy on the path to them, unlock every door and use the detonator. I save after that, and then I always get a different combination (I do Lion statue > Unicorn > Maiden).

vinev likes this
São Paulo, Brazil

@morelan, seriously!?

The save i have always gives me the same combination! I'm gonna try to do as you say and see if i get any different results. Maybe i touched the statues in that save and just don't remember

Could be a difference between the plataforms too, but somehow i doubt this would differ between versions of the game (?)

EDIT: I've also heard that when people hit any checkpoints on standard, if they hit "continue" on the you are dead screen (probably has the same effect if you load from the checkpoint ???), the medallions also refresh their starting positions. Leaving this just as a side note here, i don't really have much standard saves to test this, but.

Thanks for your response, btw! I'm gonna make a fresh save today before i stream and see what comes of it, then i report the results here.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Ohio, USA

I just run the first 10 minutes from new game. That way its random and I am still trying to get a 9.00 to the safe room. Best is only a 9.37 atm

vinev likes this
São Paulo, Brazil

@morelan, i tried making a new save and doing what you suggested, ï did the run normaly (killing the enemies with the infinite RL) up until i got the detonator (no batteries), saved at the dark room and checked the unicorn statue, they were fixed again ):

I think i'm gonna try the standard method of hiting continue or trying to load from the checkpoint to see if works, i'll edit this post if i have any results.

EDIT: Tested it, it works! Reloading from an autosave on Standard will reshuffle the positions. I reloaded specifically from the autosave on the shower room.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

I'm happy that worked for you, vinev! But I wonder why can I get new positions with my save and you can't.

vinev likes this
São Paulo, Brazil

Hmm, my best guesses are:

  1. It's a quirk of the difficulty setting (i forgot this important detail, but i play HC and i tried it in HC first). That's the most probable thing IMO.

  2. It's a difference between versions of the game (PC x PS4)

morelan likes this
Indiana, USA

Thanks for the photo for the A scenario, would you happen to have the B side as well? @vinev

Chad

I don't think anyone ever did it for the B scenario.

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