I don't want seem like I'm trying to beat a dead horse, but I feel the need to bring this up.

So I have a soft modded Wii that lets me play emulated games on there. So I got a new controller today, a Wii Classic controller to use with it.

With real NES controllers, my all time fastest mash speed in MashyMashy is 8.4/s using the NES Dogbone controller. With my new Wii Classic controller, my mashing jumped up to 9.0 to 9.5/s instantly....with 2 handed mashing and I wasn't even breaking a sweat.

I bring this us because it has me revisiting the topic of emulators, controller, keyboards, etc. I know this is already been discussed at length, but with my new finding, I'm wondering whats going on. Is my controller + emulator cheating? If it is faster somehow, should that be allowed? Or are my real NES controllers just not up to snuff?

As I said, this topic was discussed at length on the NG3 forums. But this is sort of new, so I'm bringing it up here.Would appreciate some feedback. Thanks

Can I ask what mash style you use? I know from personal experience that heavier controllers help me because I use a "rattle" or "vibrating" mash style. Added weight makes the job easier because they are larger with better grips than NES and SNES controllers. My mash speed on a PS4 controller is almost 1.5/s better because of the shape, grips, and weight of it over the NES controller, but I use the suicidal "vibrating" mash style that most agree isn't worth the work.

I use a 2 handed thumb mashing style holding the controller normally. Would be interested in seeing a video of your mash style. You pretty much need to vibrate the mash if you ever want to get the Plate Kill on Jaquio. But I have issues with it, so I just stick to 2 handed mashing. Unfortunately, the best you can get with 2 handed mashing is a 2.5 rounder or with a modified Plate Kill you can get a 2 rounder at best. Best I've ever gotten is a 3 rounder.

I just posted a MashyMashy video on my page. I don't want to videobomb the forum (My Bad).

I've already found many problems with my current mash style. Mostly losing control of the D-Pad section with how light the controllers are. I've had almost no success with my current mash style with Down+B because my mash is trained for the single button only. I have to learn a new way with the Down+B required in Ninja Gaiden. I think my current best Down+B is like 4.9 or something weak.

That's why I was asking to see a video :P One button mashing is so very different from Down+B NG mashing. Arcus has the highest Down+B NG MashyMashy I've seen at like 13/s or 14/s with 1 handed mashing with the 1 sec timer. Beerfullofbelly got an 11/s with the 5sec timer with 1 handed mashing. Mine is 8.4/s on the 5sec timer doing the 2 handed mashing with the dogbone and 9.3/s with the Wii Classic Controller on the Wii Emulator.

If I lay the controller in my lap (which will cause me to die if I have to move - tested - lol), I can hit 7.8 with the same "vibration" using Down+B. But there's no way I can incorporate that into gameplay yet. I've always been an "average" or slightly above masher. Most of my "gaming power" comes from timing and flexible thinking, so all of this mashing smashing practice I've been doing with Contra and NG are really bearing fruit.

Anyone that can even single button at 13+ is a boss. Arcus is in a place of his own for the Down+B and for Ninja Gaiden in general, but one has to wonder how much actual practice his skill reflects. I think if the controller is still legit, and yours is even more legit than mine carrying an actual Nintendo Liscence with it (Wii), I doubt it will be an issue with Ninja Gaiden due to the Down+B mash required and how difficult it is to do anyway. Unless you can button map the controller from itself (Like the old InterAct ProgramPad - SNES), or the rules specifically state otherwise, I see no problem.

Most of us have to change hardware constantly anyway. :D