Hi guys.

We have just had a run submitted that uses "infinite jump"/"out of bounds" strategies in the All Medallions category. It is not claiming a WR as of yet but it is not far behind, it's evident that similar strategies to any% can be used effectively in the All Medallions category.

I would like to see if there are any strong opinions about having a glitchless category which would ban these strategies as it does drastically change the gameplay for the All Medallions run. I'm currently of the opinion that a glitchless category would be better as most people seem to want to do All Medallions to get away from the Any% strategies.

However, there is still no reason why the game can't/shouldn't be ran All Medallions with glitches.

Please post your opinions in this thread. If there are no strong responses we will rename the current All Medallions category to "Glitchless" and create a new category for the new runs exploiting glitches to obtain all medallions.

Edit: This is the run in question:

https://www.speedrun.com/mksm/run/y42ldkdm

Sou a favor que crie uma cartegoria sem falhas, principalmente pq é poucas pessoas que sabe fazer essa estratégia com Kung lao

If it wouldn't cause too much of a headache with leaderboard changes or anything like that, I am in favor of splitting the category into glitchless and OOB/Allowed runs.

Hello Folks!
As a runner, I agree to create a new glitchless category.
It would be much more balanced and fair.

Well first of all, I don't see a glitchless category PERIOD. So since nobody's actually asked about that yet, I don't see a point to actually make this "All Medalions Glitchless" category.

Its a pretty niche game to begin with, I wouldn't bother with any of this until the community grows and seems to advocate for these changes.

If it were me, I'd prob add a little mod note in the edit tool that says "makes use of the infinite jump...." and IF in the future, there were to be categories made: Just throw runs in their rightful place respectively. That's my take on it so far.

Seria muito bom ter uma categoria sem falhas!

Sou do grupo de pessoas que acha mais confortável fazer uma corrida sem fazer bugs ou "cortar" algumas fases e cenários.

Enfim... A categoria sem falhas seria uma boa.

Seems to me like the majority has spoken more or less.

I'll add the category today. As far as I know only Kromer and Elfinout exploited Infinite Jump/OOB in the All Medallions runs so those would be the only runs put in the All Medallions category, everything else counts as glitchless. If theres something I missed, please let me know.