Hello everyone,

With the launch of the new expansion, we will be giving things about a 1-3 week period for the dust to settle on the Warlock itself as potential patches/bug fixes drop. For the time being we have added a "Patch 3.0+" variable for standard speedrun submissions.

The plan for the main category is currently to just add Warlock to the list without adding an entirely new category for it alone. If there are enough significant changes in the future, we will consider separation which may (but hopefully not) impact runs, especially if they need to be archived, sorted by patch number or potentially moved to an entirely new RoTW category in the future. But for the time being we are aiming to keep things fairly simple.

At the moment you are able to submit a run starting in either Expansion or RoTW as long as it applies to the relevant category, conversions are allowed, but please note that shared stashes MUST be cleared (specifically materials, gems, runes) unless you don't interact with them at all in your runs - but this would be highly unlikely.

In regards to NG+ and Online runs there needs to be some further discussion about how to handle categories and submissions rules - specifically verification of Online runs with the new stashes in RoTW

Thank you all and I hope you're enjoying the new class/expansion!

I want to leave some information here, many bugs have been fixed in the new add-on. Looks like p1 spawn with p8 drops are not more working here. This is a very serious change for uber speedruns.

EDIT: Unfortunately, I don't have a full changelog, so it's hard to say how much the game has changed compared to previous versions.

With the player count change, mentioned by 327 above, and other small changes that keep happening (like Diablo's Laser).. I believe we will be in need of a separator between RotW and D2R LoD. Mixing them together could cause problems in the future, if there are major changes and patches.

As far as NG+ goes I won't be updating the shared stashes for awhile, and Slivenius hasn't been active for awhile. It's also very time consuming, so unless someone wants to commission to get it done sooner, the category will be dormant for at least a few months.

The solo Warlock speedruns are fun, and I'm curious to see how Coop speedruns go with the Warlock.

Before separation between RotW and D2R LoD, I ask you to reconsider the consequences. Speedrunning activity is already declining. Creating seasons will devalue many efforts, which will reduce motivation.

I'm not asking you not to do this, I'm just asking you to think about consequences of what will happen with split seasons and keeping one ladderboard.

The differences between LoD and RotW are massive. Perhaps even more so than vanilla v. LoD.

Problems that currently exist:

• P1-P8 trick is no longer possible in both Expansion + ROTW, which impacts ALL Torch runs
• The new stash impacts NG+ for Expansion vs. ROTW since they are effectively two different stash types (potentially an entire separation there)
• Decoy bug is fixed in both Expansion + ROTW, which impacts Hell Amazon and Torch Amazon
• The new stash impacts verification for "Online" runs, as players will need to provide evidence of their materials tabs being empty or snapshotted prior to a run.
• There could be more that's not listed here as well (outside of general differences between Expansion vs. ROTW)

Seasonal / Patch separation categories will probably not help longevity and interest in the game for some.

Need to also see what's possible in terms of leaderboard organization with Indrek

Feel free to respond with input/ideas, but keep in mind we want to avoid creating too many categories/separations if possible (there's already a lot)

honestly any submissions after 3.o should be seperated due to the many changes as stated above. In regards to player count/interest, I for one would be very excited to have new categories to submit to with new leaderboards, as the mods saw when i submitted a warlock run they mistakenly made public lol

For now we have added the 'Warlock' as a class variable to most categories where it applies.

Right now we want to avoid separation, so we're going to allow people to submit runs in either Expansion or ROTW for categories where the goal is the same, example: Any% Baal

Please keep in mind that submissions in the future may be subject to archiving or becoming obsolete depending on the nature of potential future changes (mainly in the event of nerfs, rather than buffs)

Some current runs may have to be dropped from the leaderboard due to the above, but we are still in the process of working that out.

There will be some ruleset updates to categories in the coming days/weeks, please keep an eye out for an update there - but the main rule still applies when it comes to stashes, you must not use any items within shared tabs, gems, runes, materials that was NOT found within your current run. It is heavily advised to clear these stashes between each attempt.

When it comes to online runs, you may need to provide proof of your stashes prior to the character creation and if not, please provide extra timestamps where the shared stash is used for helping with verification.

Any runs on Warlock that have been done since the release of ROTW are allowed to be submitted as there have been no real substantial changes since release.

Happy Warlock running (until further changes)