Hi, I’m someone interested in golf in gta5. I see some inconsistencies with timing and would like to propose a solution that will involve changing the wording of rules. I’ve checked runs to make sure timings are reliable, this is what I found out

treble_20 - 5:35.8 (ball goes in), 17frames later 5:36.36 message appears [30fps] kyle - 5:38.3 (same frame for ball/message) [24fps] GreatOne - 5:50.6 (ball goes in), 15frames later 5:51.1 message appears [30fps] ssjvegito - 6:33.0 (ball goes in), 15frames later 6:33.5 message appears [30fps] darkviper88 - 6:37.46 (ball goes in), 30frames later 6:37.96 message appears [59.148fps?] Unhallowed - 6:37.50 (ball goes in), 16frames later 6:38.04 message appears [29.816fps?] rikkymontana - 6:54.27 (ball goes in), 13frames later 6:54.7 message appears [30fps] nallenon - 7:55.93 (ball goes in), 13frames later 7:56.364 message appears [29.95fps] mizterconfuzing - 8:18.6 (ball goes in), 31frames later 8:17.11 message appears [60fps] velocinator - 8:27.1 (ball goes in), 11frames later 8:27.47 message appears [30fps]

0.0s gg appears after "birdie": treble_20 (PS3) 2.77s gg appears after "birdie": Kyle, Greatone, darkviper 2.77s gg appears after "par": nallenon 3.1s gg appears after "bogey": rikkymontana (X360) 3.23s "4 over par" appears after "bogey": velocinator 4.02s "1 over par" appears after "birdie": mizterconfuzing 4.43s gg appears after "birdie": ssjvegito 4.66s gg appears after "perfect shot" (:/)(4.133 after "birdie"): unhallowed (Good Game message seems random enough (or dependant on the animation the character does and/or on the platform PS/PC) to be ignored in timing)

The only person who managed to get the ball close enough to the hole for the character to „self-putt” it was kyle and the „birdie” message showed up instantly. The rest got the message at interestingly varying amounts of time but close enough for me to be acceptable (a couple of frames). To „reward” the player for getting the ball close to the hole I would suggest the rule to be „stop the timer the instant the last message before Good Game shows up (eg. „par”, „birdie”)(that could be worded better). Sounds fair to me, half a second lost if you don’t manage it and would still maintain the current standings. If you don’t think the proposition is suitable, we could change the rules to say „The instant the ball disappears fully from the screen in the last hole”, that would too be specific enough.

Thank you for your time, zibson