I see no reason to disallow this trick.

Good work finding this and thanks for sharing.

The rules are under "Game Rules" on the leaderboard.

"SDA timing rules. Start timer when you first gain control of your character on the first level. Stop timer when you lose control of your character (when the final boss hits the floor and shatters)"

Depending on the position of Tam or Rit on the screen, some mushroom jumps last longer than others. It is more consistent to start and stop the timer when you gain and lose control.

I created the subcategories and re-submitted everything into the appropriate category. I flipped through everything and it is looking pretty good now. I may have missed something, so let me know if you see something and I can fix it.

@HosteL @Pikachu your run was mistakenly in the any% Co-op category before, so i resubmitted into Jumpless Co-op.

I wanted to know what makes more sense to you guys for categories.

Jumpless: Jump not enabled and fast transitions

Default: Jump not enabled and slow transitions

The current category is set to jumpless, but that can be changed.

I think jkloser was right when he said we should grow up and move forward on this.

I tried to make my point of view known, so we can move past all this. Miscommunications were made. This is known. The proper thing would be to figure out what those were and to reconcile them. I believe we have done so.

If there are any issues that you still have please feel free to talk about it, but I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here now.

OK good stuff. Let me expand on my thought process. The timing issue has been blown up so much that I forgot that my inaction was about something else entirely. I originally wanted to get feedback on the so-called "jumpless" category. Niss3 originally wanted to call it "default%". He wasn't going to run that category, but said others are interested. I thought it would be a good idea to get input from others about it.

My concern was that there are two options.

1. fast transition/ slow transitions
2. jump enabled/ disabled Default% would mean that both would be untouched, but a jumpless category would mean fast transitions could be turned on.

I personally would opt for a jumpless category because I don't see how slow transitions would add anything to the run. BUT Niss3 and I both don't run the category, so it would be silly for either of us to make a judgement on it.

This was the original cause of my inaction that Niss3 conflated to be some sort of personal attack and about the timing deal. I'll also admit I was pretty annoyed when I learned he was trying to go behind my back and contacted site mods.

Niss3 it was not my intention to make you look or feel foolish. I apologize for any miscommunications between the two of us.

JkLoser: I wanted to have the other runners talk about the game. I never had the attitude that my word was law. I really don't get where you get that impression.

I very much appreciate what everyone has said, and want to hear what everyone thinks about jumpless/default runs.

Chill out dude. Yeah, I don't run this version of the game and yeah, I do realize that there are differences. Because of that I wanted to get more input from others. Unfortunately, I was under the impression more people would care enough to speak up.

I wouldn't feel comfortable making a judgement about modding or rules or anything else without that. Even if Niss is the definitive runner of Rod Land, how am I suppose to know? If I am on a powertrip for wanting to make informed judgements, then sure.

All of this seems even sillier under the light that nobody even cares!

Regardless, thank you for your input. Together, we can move forward responsibly. We will get this leaderboard set up right for you Niss!

Who are you talking about? Are there other runners out there? You sure make it seem that way.

If they are so upset about this then why don't they contact me somehow? Where are they? What are they doing? Why are they so silent? So far I only know about you, and you could just be a vocal minority.

If there are people out there looking to use the leaderboard then they must also have speedrun accounts. I'm here. If they really do have concerns it's a simple matter to let me know, either through direct message or on this forum. When you said there were other and they all agreed, I was expecting that maybe somebody would say "oh yeah, we agree with him. please change it."

What did I get? You complaining to the site mods almost immediately. And then when you didn't get what you wanted from them, you threw a tantrum and took down your times like a child.

Very underhanded and immature.

mentioned this two years ago wanting this to get fixed. Now, after two years, the solution is to just take down my run and tell me it needs it's own board. yes i know, make a separate board for gbc. I'm not a mod, i can't do this stuff. please fix this.

I posted a thread before but none of the mods responded to it, so here I go again.

The BattleTanx leaderboard contains both the n64 version and the gbc version. They are two different games and deserve two different leaderboards. If someone could change that, that would be great.

Thanks.

Despite sharing the same name, BattleTanx for Gameboy Color and BattleTanx for N64 are very different games that share the same leader board. If they could be separated into two different games in the same series that would be fantastic.

considering they are two completely different games, I think it would be most appropriate to have two different leaderboards.

can't you add WiiUVC as a platform? if so, just do that.

and can we add julius low%? :p

any thoughts of adding 100% souls onto the leaderboard?