European UnionCurrently the No Artifacts category is restricted to Monsoon only, with the idea of it replicating a "vanilla" run you might do casually or see most content creators play.
The opinions on this among the mod team are fairly split, so we figured the best way forward would be to ask the community, what do you think? Should it be kept to Monsoon? Should we allow Drizzle? Maybe have both as a subcategory?
Since this topic turned out to be much more controversial and spawned a much larger discussion than I initially expected, I figure another thread is in order.
Now, this thread is meant to act more like a poll than an actual discussion thread (wouldn't you know it src doesn't have anything for polling the community, what a great website). I want all posts here to simply state your preference and a brief explanation of why you take your stance. Any actual discussion about it should be done either in the previous thread or on discord.
As far as I'm concerned, we have 3 options to how to proceed:
- Simply allow using an optimized savefile
- Allow using an optimized savefile but add a variable tracking whether one was used, so that they can be filtered out
- Require a completed savefile
Non-runner votes will not be considered, whatever the majority decides on will be the rule.
When it was originally created, the Gauntlet category was meant to be as close to replicating the racing ruleset as possible, while still being fun to run. This worked for most racers who were interested in the category, however some base game speedrunners as well as newcomers don't seem to agree with the mod requirement.
The proposed solution is to allow Vanilla E8 Lunarless runs on the Gauntlet board, with the caveat that while still timed with IGT, they cannot enter the bazaar, else the run will be timed with real time.
The main discrepancy then between modded and vanilla runs at the top level becomes the presence of Fogbound Lagoon, as other modded features like +5s don't matter for top runs, though they do make the category more accessible for less consistent players.
Another idea that was brought up to make the Gauntlet run more in line with other categories is to allow savefile manipulation as well as toggling off the DLC, allowing the removal of some bad items to make runs more consistent. If this rule is accepted the mod will need to be updated to accomodate for it, if not, vanilla runs will need to verify a complete savefile after every run.
Please discuss in this thread. I am aware discord is easier for quick communication but talking about it here makes it much easier to look back on and reference again. Especially with the community being split across the racing and speedrunning discord servers, having all discussion take place in one spot makes my life as a moderator much easier.
An idea came up in the racing discord server to integrate some sort of seed preview into the gauntlet mod, letting you scope out the seed before playing.
With the Gauntlet category requiring playing on a completed savefile, and the meta being defined by pillar skip equipments, it makes grinding runs for the low chance of finding a skip rather frustrating. A seed preview would also make runs a little more like races, where the loadouts and stage order is known before playing.
Modding the game to preview the seed would be considered pretty iffy by most roguelike speedrunning communities, but I believe there could be some merit in allowing it here.
Keep in mind, no tool for this exists yet. Still, I'd like to hear what the community thinks. Should we allow something like this? Should it be allowed here on the main boards, or maybe make a new board on the category extensions page for it? What are, in your mind, the pros and cons of allowing a mod like this for speedruns?
This would of course apply only to the Gauntlet category.
- Where is the category for Monsoon? Risk of Rain 1 has one.
Unlike in RoR1, here the difficulty level simply does not matter for any category. Most it'd change is you die easier on the first stage, which you would already be resetting plenty even on Drizzle. As such, separating difficulties is pointless. However, there is nothing stopping you from running on Monsoon if you like.
- Can we add <insert category here>?
A lot of the ideas people have are either trivial, like a "die as fast as possible" category, not different enough from existing categories, or simply too arbitrary to warrant tracking. However if you believe your category idea is interesting enough to be tracked, do a run of it first, then bring it up. If people like it, it will get added to either the main boards or the category extensions page.
- How do you have so many Lunar Coins? Are you cheating?
As is common in roguelike speedruns, we allow using an edited savefile to skip grinding for coins and set up unlocks to get optimal odds of getting the items we want. This however only applies to the savefile itself. Modding the game is not allowed for leaderboard submissions.
i will fix these leaderboards for the low low price of free just let me do it
By changing the character "state" from a standstill to walking you can completely cancel the cooldown between attacks, allowing you to attack basically as fast as you can mash. Might be useful to speed up bossfights or something.
First of all, here's a couple things I found while messing around with this game.
Second of all, how does the Mission List Glitch work? I'm not sure what inputs are being done to warp to objectives like that.
can anyone explain what happened here? Only thing l can think of is l was tapping L1/R1 in the screen transition out of boredom, maybe l activated some sort of cheat code or something?
Hey, seeing this game have a leaderboard made me motivated to glitchhunt again, and this time l've actually managed to find something.
Paste from the video description: By holding down jump and repeatedly tapping forward in a specific rhythm while facing the correct angle you're able to scale up the wall and skip around a minute of walking. Also, "zipping" on top of the fence by doing the same thing but between the tree and the fence, that one doesn't seem to require any rhythm at all. The platforming at the end is pretty tricky, but failing it simply means you can go around, only losing around 15s.
Also l'm working on an Autosplitter/Load Remover for this game, so stay tuned for that l guess :p
not sure if known or not?
based on the no alt-f4 dupe for 1.8 that's shown in the guide section, but you can dupe however much you want with very little loss in IGT could be useful i guess? figured id share
We have a discord for Ankake Spa speedruns now, which includes this game! Feel free to join at: https://discord.gg/FVTJZFW
We made a discord server for the game to post new findings and host general discussion. Join it here: https://discord.gg/FVTJZFW
literally someone in a chat l was in posted this and l figured you guys might find it useful?
maybe this time it'll work better http://www.mediafire.com/file/gy39ndqpyaax3up/childoflight.asl/file
It should pause the timer on loads (actual times the game loads, not the load screens themselves) and when you Alt+F4 out of the game. Please test it and consider using this in runs as RTA for PC games sucks (:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bhvi2p9ovbsjovr/ChildOfLight_Loadless.asl
From now runs will use time provided by the IGT mod available in the Resources tab. Please use it.
Hi there. l noticed the previous mod of these boards hasn't been on in ages so l became a new one. This means your runs will be approved again. Also, we got a load remover working for the game and retimed all the previous runs to exclude loads. You can find the load remover in the resources tab. Please use it from now on
