Heyya,

we as the KHFM moderators have thought about this proposal for a few days and came to the conclusion that we will not adjust any of the times to accommodate for the differences in the two different version. There are multiple reasons for this:

A: Every single category would need to be retimed to make this a fair change. It wouldn't be fair nor would it make sense to only do this for Beginner Any% on PC. All other categories would have to be retimed as well which would not lead to a lot of extra runs needing to be adjusted, but we would need to research the time difference for every single category.

B: The differences are more than just the textboxes. We are currently aware of a few more differences in which ENG behaves differently from JP (Being able to move immediately after talking to Leon before the Earthshine cutscene, different spawn points after PC1 and Opposite Armor, an extra screen fade before Oogie Manor to name a few). All of these would need be accounted for as well. Furthermore this also means that just patching the game to be JP is not an option due to those gameplay differences that would need to be ironed out as well.

C: The 45 second time difference was determined by myself through this comparision I made It does include most of the differences I referred to in point B, however it was only timed to get an idea on what the difference between the languages would be by using two runs from the leaderboards. To get an accurate timing we would need a comparison that encompasses every difference and uses an auto-clicker for the textboxes to eliminate any human error. This would probably change the result by only a few seconds, but if we decide to go the path of retiming runs we'd rather do it in the most accurate way possible than just eyeball a difference.

D: FPS matters as far as I've observed. The textboxes are different in speed between 30 and 60 fps (That's why Sonic got 51 seconds as the difference several years ago as opposed to the 45 seconds I got here). This means that potential framedrops could affect the time it would need to be adjusted by.

Now obviously we don't want to deny this proposal without offering a solution to this issue. Currently we are aware of three ways, some more reasonable than others, to still be able to legally obtain a JP version through Epic Games:

1: As stated in this thread before by Violin there is the option to purchase prepaid Japanese Visa Cards. There are multiple ways to purchase those, two example are listed here: https://www.play-asia.com/v-preca-5000-visa-gift-card-japan-account/13/70cvb7 https://www.g2a.com/vanilla-visa-10-000-jpy-key-japan-i10000338113019 Play-Asia offers cards up to 5000 Yen which would work well should the game be on a big sale while G2A offers cards up to 10000 Yen. Those are able to cover the entire purchase of 7980 Yen.

2: Another method would be using a VPN service to change your location as mentioned by Shikikairi. VPNs are not hard to access nowadays and many popular VPN services like NordVPN and Surfshark even offer a 30-day back guarantee meaning you can cancel your VPN right after should you not need it anymore.

3: This solution works in conjunction with the aformentioned 2 methods - Epic Games does not kick you out of the account if you're logged in on multiple devices simultaneously. This means that account sharing is something that can be done as well. This solution of course requires having a connection to someone in the community who already owns the game, but it also allows multiple people to band up for a purchase which would make the option of prepaid Visa cards a much more reasonable ways to access the game.

We understand that these proposed solutions are still hoops one has to jump through just to get your hands on a JP copy of the PC release and that's why we made sure to weigh out the positives over the negatives. The 40-50 second time adjustment is a rather small change in a 2+ hour speedrun that has many ways in which time can be gained or lost. As of right now it's even possible to still reach a Top#5 time with ENG which underlines how small the difference truly is. Ultimately this isn't big enough of a difference to justify reworking the leaderboards, whether this would be through a category spilt or retiming of the runs. We're happy to answer any upcoming questions and feedback on our decision. Thank you for your time reading this.

Sincerely

• desa (On behalf of the KHFM moderation team)

CoM doesn't have any Category Extensions yet. If you can think of an interesting category feel free to give it a shot and maybe it gets a spot on the board, but there's no guarantee of course.

It doens't matter which language you run the game in. As long as it isn't Japanese it's counted as an "ENG" run.

They would just drown inside that entire Disney Library. Kingdom Hearts is a big enough brand on its own that it doesn't need to be grouped with the Disney games, especially as the communities have no sort of connection to each other either.

Also I might've not seen that correctly now, is there a different between the two runs you both linked now?

Well, if you get a few more people interested in this category then I see no reason to not add it to the boards.

100% doesn't really have any difficulty attached to it as it's a legacy / dead category. The only reason it still exists on the leaderboards is due to there being a run, however that one doesn't even have a video remaining. If you want to look for a "good" 100% category you might want to look into JJ 100% or Platinum Trophy RTA.

Updated. Thanks for mentioning it, we completely forgot about that.

Definitely surprised to see that PC is the fastest. For most other KH games PC is actually one of the slower categories, that's quite interesting. Again for PC it would make the most sense if we would eventually go with a load remover. Not sure who would want to tackle that endeavor, but that would create the best competetive environment for it. The empty boards arguments mostly goes towards splitting the consoles, not necessarily to different categories as a whole. A common thing you see in speedrunning is people doing a run in any given category just to snag a free WR which by itself isn't bad, everyone can use their own ruleset, but is also rather silly in my eyes, that's why I'm a little hesitant on just splitting consoles, especially in a small game like this. Seeing the difference in loads definitely speaks for a split however.

The split you suggested

1. PC
2. PS5 / XboxSeries (S / X)
3. PS4 (Pro) / XboxOne (X)
4. Switch sounds like it would make the most sense. I checked the difference between PS4 Pro and Switch as well and it looked to me like it's about the same as PS4 Pro and Switch. The only thing I'm not 100% sure on is how PS4 / PS4 Pro should be grouped up as the regular PS4 might be just as slow as the Switch, it'd be great if you could find someone who could record a sample for that, too. Just the tutorial (First 5 min of the run) would already be enough in this case as that already gives a good suggestion of the overall load times of the game.

For the bigger categories a split can be considered once there is more competition I'd say. As you mentioned, there will probably not be many runs of All Stars / All Songs performed on a Switch and even less Plat runs on anything that isn't a PS4 / PS5.

What would help in the future is having those kind of discussions in the speedrunning discord as a whole. If anything it would be great if the result of a discussion like that could be posted there or, like in this case, in the Forum as that is what the Forum is for. I appreciate you bringing this topic into the Forums in the first place!

With Whale having a run and you definitely showing interest I would add the category to the board once you can show a run of yours. I guess having 2 runners for a category sounds good for a new category with this game. Lookign forward to seeing it.

Thank you for mentioning this. I don't know where the discussion was held, but it didn't really happen in the KH Speedrunning discord (At least recently) so I wasn't aware of this personally, so it's good that this is finally discussed in a more open manner and having this discussion in a more open space would probably help speed up the process of this leaderboard change. The split sounds fine overall if more data can be provided on the different consoles. An SSD installed can change the speed drastically, same with PS4 over PS4 Pro, so having some rough data on how big the differences in general are would help with this process. And I don't know how XBox affects this game, though XBox can be handled loosely in comparision to the other consoles for now as that one is rather rare for KH Speedruns. The comparisions don't have to be full runs, just a few sections which can then be used to estimate the difference between the categories you mentioned. One issue with a potential split, as Bublo implied from what I can tell, is that there aren't many runners for this game. Splitting the consoles further would make the boards look more empty than the already do, but this is a rather small argument.

A load remover has been developed in the past, but if I remember correctly it had some issues which is why it was never introduced in the first place.

Generally if there are a few runs for a category that doesn't exist yet we will have a look at it and likely add it seeing that people actually go for it. Any category is generally fine, but we rather go with having existing runs than adding categories that aren't gonna be run in the future.

As long as no progress is saved in the systemBackup.inf it is totally fine. Feel free to use this workaround!

I don't think you need to delete your times. Keeping your time means you'll always be able to look back on what you did and how far you've come. Just submit another run if you already pb'd :D Making the mods job easier should be stuff like having everything set up correct, making sure the video is a highlight and not just a past broadcast etc. Submitting multiple runs is nothing that would fall under that category I'd say.

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This is a test comment to see what this allows me to do.

For this game, due to how IGT is handled, you would not be allowed to make a Save, leave the Game and reload the save later throughout the day. Aside that however, you generally want to have one full video recording your run from start to finish when doing a speedrun. Having segments or multiple videos (especially if they are more than 2) can easily result in a run not being verified.

Unfortunately emulators are extremly inaccurate and can have varying results in terms of loads between different hardware. A loadremover would resolve this issue, but that one does not exist. There emulator is currently not looked at as a separate category.