While discussing different strategies in the modern speedrunning discord, I realized that there are no leaderboards for individual level runs in this game (or sticker star for that matter).

Personally, I think this would be a fun idea barring perhaps a couple of paint stars that essentially require the player to do the same thing as another paint star (i.e. Kiwano Temple and Mossrock Theater), as they are much shorter in length compared to the other categories and runners could reset after completing runs to have a save ready to try again if desired, rather than needing to start the game over to get to that point.

Details such as colorless spots, cards and other such collectibles should be discussed of course, what do you think? I personally would be down to select a particular paint star as a trial for a bunch of people including myself to run, see if this IL has merit and then go from there.

Yup. And to answer your question Baking_cOokie, my time was 7:58.52, starting after closing the textbox to start the first fight, and ending once the text for the prize total after beating the Buzzy Beetle shows up.

I assume you mean if it were posted in the forum while the category did not yet exist? I don't see an issue with that, I did so with a video of me doing a speedrun of Scuffle Island

Thanks to HeisDaBomb attempting this challenge we have some more information on the idea of a Scuffle Island IL. Due to the possibility of a random bonus being awarded after the Buzzy Beetle is defeated (which adds an additional textbox) I think the timing method I’ve outlined before will be appropriate:

1. Start after closing the white textbox (right before the Goomba raises up the platform)
2. End time when the text appears for the “Prize Total” after defeating Buzzy Beetle.

So how about it? The timing method has been solidified, should this be a category?

Update, I have posted an example run to my channel, with a time of 7:58.52 based on the timing method I outlined previously:

If you have recommendations on timing differences, split changes, etc. please do tell. I want to see this category on the leaderboards!

Oh yeah I guess Misc. would make more sense for Scuffle Island, good idea.

A thought occurred to me… There is no IL category for completing Scuffle Island. It would require RTA timing rather than an in-game timer, but King Olly has already set a precedence for that. Here is my proposition:

Time should start after closing the textbox to begin the fight with Paper Macho Goomba (the initial time through the island has multiple textboxes rather than 1. This should eliminate that discrepancy though idk why you’d run this on an initial playthrough)

Time should end either:

• When the sound plays for the “Prize Total” after defeating Paper Macho Buzzy Beetle (or just when that text appears)
• When the Toad Statue finishes dropping your earnings.

What do you think? Considering the ease of accessing the arena since it only requires a single completed save file and can be repeated as much as you want just like the Boss fights, I think it works as a challenge to add to the leaderboard.

Edit: I think I’ll do an example run just to show exactly what I mean in terms of timing.

One way to potentially combat the meta of Autosaves losing time for some people in a Boss Rush category, would be to simply sum up the in-game time for each boss, which is something done for certain categories of games (I think one of the Punch Out game leaderboards works like this?)

Yeah we’d need a bit more time to establish ground rules for the other Streamer ILs as categories, since it can depend on what you’ve done prior to the start of the streamer.

Cloud saves would make doing streamer ILs post red less tedious, but I don’t know how that would affect activity in the category after some time has passed.

I agree, I think at the very least Red Streamer% would be a good addition as a leaderboard category, there is already activity in this challenge and Overook Tower Early differentiates the category from simply being “Any% cutoff after defeating Pencil”

brutal, that turn 4

I think a boss rush category for all the bossotronic stuff could work well, if it got requested I’d support that. I don’t think that’s been a thing with the other paper mario’s so that’s make it stand out

And for OP’s request, if you’re referring to individual categories for each boss, you can find those already by selecting them under “Leaderboards /“

I understand why most Bosses wouldn't have times here, but what about Black Bowser? He can be refought at any time if I remember correctly.

If we had the ability to copy saves, I would've suggested this be done on a post game save file with no Luigi's found yet