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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

After some discussion, I have added in a new sub genre of runs for Holiday categories. The holiday special events really trivialize non-holiday runs and thus should be separated we feel.

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

His run is from before Speedrun.com was even a thing.

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

So this was discussed int he discord, but for those who haven't joined yet or don't want to. We have added in Click types and Webcam as options for submissions. This way we can sort by whatever we want. I think it's a good compromise for the different ways of clicking people use.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

As per request, I've created is a discord channel. It should be easier and faster to discuss things here.

https://discord.gg/J77HeWF

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I think coldwater is using mousekeys, because there are brief stutters in the clicking, it's not consistent. But at the same time, he is using a microphone and I think it would pick up any actual clicking noises... But this is a good example of why we need these rules in place.

Here's a link to Mousotron too http://www.blacksunsoftware.com/mousotron.html

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I actually think that mousotron program is exactly what we need, but would an auto-clicker register on it?

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I want to come to a general consensus on what forms of clicking we are going to allow before i reject or accept any more runs. there's so many different ways people are trying to get around actual clicking to a point where it's difficult to tell what's auto-clicking and what's not.

Besides actual clicking. Do we want to allow -Keyboard buttons as clicks. -Mouse-wheel clicks.

I personally don't think we should out of sheer difficulty to verify it's a legit run, but also it's kind of defeats the purpose if you ask me to not actually do your own clicking. Thoughts? Arguments? For or against? Let me know what you guys think.

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

We're kind of up in the air about this right now. And it's sort of being discussed in another topic.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

Just got another obvious auto-clicker. Claims to beat previous record by 10 minutes lol

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

So a recent 1st place claim, which I have determined to be using auto-clicker, has made me consider the need for a new rule. To help combat the use of auto-clickers I think a microphone should be used so clicks are audible. I don't really want it to have to come to this, but it's really the best way i could think of to combat this.

This is the video that makes me want it. The clicks are consistent through the entire video, with no mistakes or fatigue. Also the fact that this guy has never submitted to any cookie clicker category and is claiming first place right away.

Anyway. I'd like to hear some arguments for and against the rule change. Or other ways I can better combat auto-clickers. I'm basically doing all the verifications now.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I'm okay with it. We have a guy who uses keyboard inputs as clicking. The only argument against it I could think of is not everyone can replicate this.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

Yeah an older build (1.0466) would have way fewer things to do to reach 100% It would literally shave weeks or months off the run I think. that said, in the old versions Shadow achievements count towards the regular achievement count.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

Maybe you should use a legacy build?

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I would assume just follow the pre-click frenzy, 1 million strategy without using gcs?

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I'm pretty sure it will take over a year lol.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I'm willing to create the category for you. I would however like for you to complete a run first so I can just get a grasp on how I'm supposed to verify such a long run. I understand this will take a while to complete so just let me know when it's ready.

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Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

So I guess we need to decide if I should remove it entirely or add 1.036 to the version list. What do you guys think?

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

Should I delete it based on the fact it's a version of the game that's unavailable?

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

I have an old Speedrunslive log of 55 minutes in a 40 achievements race I cant quite remember what version or if there was a holiday active.

Maine, USATheStrahl5 years ago

So i just tested 1.0466 and shadow achievements do count towards the total achievements in that. So it might be worth it to do it in 1.0466. That said there are fewer achievements to be gained including some of the easy ones like "Here you go" I'm going to try a run tonight to see how it goes.

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