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United StatesSchie5 years ago

Let me clarify a little bit. I understand not wanting to split the community and I see that there has been an extension community made that I wasn't aware of in my first response. So I apologize for some of those blunt and striking comments. That said, I still stand by that skill is a big enough factor to stagnant growth or interest in the community. And without new faces coming in and submitting lower tier / skill runs, they'll never get better.

And I've seen it in other communities, specifically the other game I used to run, Dark Souls, where a few glitches that dominated the game, were keeping new people out. Glitches, most of the time are banned because they overtake a game or community, being considered essential (along with TOS and exploit rules in some games like this one). And while Nova isn't a glitch, she has overtaken the game.

I'm glad to see that you're at least willing to give it a chance though and hopefully it does bring newer faces in. If it doesn't I can see non-nova stuff sent to the extensions board and that would be ok too in my opinion. I will definitely submit runs for Pavlov when or if the filter comes to be.

thread: Warframe
United StatesSchie5 years ago

As someone new to the world of Warframe speedrunning, perhaps I can offer a different perspective. As a side note, I don't mean to step on any toes, but regardless of my intent, I probably will, seeing some of the responses on here already. The idea of submitting runs, is terrifying to new people. Seeing a WR with Nova is terrifying. It completely destroys the enthusiasm that someone might have towards wanting to run this game. And saying that a Nova filter doesn't lower the bar of entry is ignoring a massive point of contention, skill.

Nova is extremely high skill, by allowing a leaderboard that negates Nova, you are by definition lowering the bar. And while you can easily obtain Nova, as it has been mentioned before, the mods take time to gather. I respect anyone who can play Nova and go for masterfully performed WRs, but allowing a more accessible category or filter can't hurt anything, besides maybe some pride and elitism. And a lot of the reasons that have been stated to not do this have amounted to nothing more than elitism, whether you want to admit it or not. Speedrunning should be open and accessible to everyone, not just people with twitch like reflexes, which is what Nova amounts to.

As for the Nyx, Titania and other arguments that this is a slippery slope, none of those frames come anywhere close to the skill ceiling you have to perform with Nova. I think you're underestimating the community by thinking that anyone will be asking for all of the frames to be sanctioned off or something like a Rhino only leaderboard.

With Nova in the position that she currently is, there is no competition unless you run her. Atleast having a non-Nova board, it will open up fresh competition and takes nothing away from the players who play her, if anything it glorifies it as a thing to work towards if you want it.

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