TL;DR - Rule Changes:

• Leaderboards will change timing method to IGT (added up after each stage)
• Normal Stats category is gone, since there is no point yet to speedrun it (slower, inconsistent, etc)
• After you die in a phase, you have to reset, since IGT is not accurate anymore

ALL TIMES WE BE REVIEWED AND IGT ADDED. :)

Hello everyone!

Since there are new runners learning the game and submitting runs already (or in the future), i was doing some calculations on how to adjust the leaderboards.

FACT HERE: Emulator loading times are WAY, WAY, faster, than Console. This not only leaves console runners behind getting WR, due to losing 6-10 seconds on every single "Phase" (or stage) loading screen, but it makes everything not competitive anymore.

As a mod and active runner of this game, was in a struggle of making changes. There were these options:

1. Make Emulator runs separated from Console runs

Answer: This is bad, because it will divide a small community into running on Emulator or PS2, which makes it just not competitive !

2. Add a specific amount of time to Emulator runs

Answer: This is very inconsistent due to loading times on console being so much different and even on emulator it is different by a couple of frames per stage.

3. Use the In-Game Timer (or IGT for short) after each stage and add it up after the run

Answer: This is the best way to go. The most accurate way to time runs for personal best.

So now, every run will be re-timed to In-Game Timer or IGT.

This is due to those inconsistent loading times the PS2 has versus the emulator. A detailed comparison can be found here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufX672GsI3bwN3V5OPiwhQ_b-Hy387o4w-wIgUjQBoE/edit?usp=sharing

This compares: Route A - Easy (1) - Max Stats PandaBURRR (13:13 RTA) vs. skillmammu (RTA 13:00)

While skillmammu's run is faster by 13 seconds RTA, PandaBURRR's run is 1 minute 19 seconds and 23 milliseconds faster on overall IGT.

This makes PandaBURRR's run faster IGT, but slower RTA due to the loading times in the sheet.

A detailed video will be released on this (don't worry, it takes a lot of work, but those times are precisely done to each frame.)

Where does this leave us right now?

Emulators are still allowed on the normal leaderboards. RTA timing can be done, but is not measured for any run. IGT will be the timing for all runs to be competitive.

This makes us not dividing the runs into 2 categories and makes times as fast, as you are on each stages, without worrying of getting a console and playing on it. :)

Side-Changes:

• Categories in general will not longer have "Normal Stats"

Reason: Slow, and nobody runs it actually. Also losing a stage will now make the run invalid. See below.

• Since IGT is a new timing method, taking a LOSS during a run, will be counted as invalid. Runs now have to be completed without losing a single stage. (especially counts for Normal and Hard difficulty)

Reason: You could basically lose a fight during a run and still get WR after countless tries. Resetting a fight all over again is not a way to go in a speedrun. So if you take a LOSS, it's a reset.

I know these are a lot of changes, but i've took my days off to actually make them as good and competitive as possible for everyone. Not having PS2 Console and PCSX2 Emulator separated, was my goal, and with the IGT we can do this.

It means a lot of work to do for me as a mod, but also it secures the most accurate runs of this game !

Thank you for reading !

PS: As I stated, i will release a video on that in a few... gimme some time tho, i'm not that good at video editing ! =)

Cheers, PandaBURRR

Hello!

I've found a couple of games, that are currently not listed under the "Gundam Series" Link to series: https://www.speedrun.com/gundam

The games not listed:

Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed Destiny (GBA) https://www.speedrun.com/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_Seed_Destiny

Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story: The Blue Destiny https://www.speedrun.com/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_Side_Story_The_Blue_Destiny

SD Gundam Dimension War https://www.speedrun.com/SD_Gundam_Dimension_War

Gundam Breaker 3 https://www.speedrun.com/Gundam_Breaker_3

Mobile Suit Gundam: Journey to Jaburo https://www.speedrun.com/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_Journey_to_Jaburo

It would be awesome if those could be listed under the series as well !

Thanks a lot in advance! :)

Sounds like a really good idea!

I was thinking about getting back into the game, but would start on "Easy" difficulty, because i'm not that good right now ! But having Story Mode - Easy || Story Mode - Normal || Story Mode - Hard as a category will be a very cool addition, especially, if you want a more challenging run, when you play on "Hard"!

This is the current route up to Auel 3, i developed. This pastebin will be edited and changed upon discovering new strats. Feel free to contribute

https://pastebin.com/xDRv5kGw

I estimate the current Plus Mode Run around 11,5 hours.

Ah, thank you very much ! I will post into the thread and get the added to the boards !

Thank you also for the opportunity as trial mod for the gundam series !

I know that series mods are not in control of the Game leaderboards and rules, which is of course totally fine with me, since i don't want to change them in any way. My suggestion for being a mod was pretty much about getting the games, that aren't in the series into it, as well as making requested games faster to add. Since i'm currently learning each individual Game of the Gundam Seed series, there will be a couple more added once i got a decent run. Some i figured don't make quite the good speedgame and are pretty much not enjoyable or fast enough to run (such as Battle Assault 3, or the Gundam SD RPG's).

Thanks for the advice and let's do some good work ! :)

So you say, that you have to request the existing Gundam games into this thread to be added? I know that its possible to add games under the series, if you request it under the series. That's what i did for almost every game, except the JPN GBA SEED game. I did screw that up and requested it, back then, when i didn't know about how the site's mechanics work.

So, the 4 existing games i have listed here go into the thread you posted ?

Also what's about my thread about making me a Series Mod? No mod seems to respond at that and i hate to going onto different social media, just to receive no message. Thanks !

Hello @Xerobladedge , @spacegy4 and @JakatoXtra ,

I want to apply for a mod within the Gundam Series section.

Reasons why:

• I play and run a lot of different Gundam Games and i think i'm the most active runner atm.
• I do have a good understanding of Gundam Games in general, how their mechanics work and if they're legit
• I want to clean up the leaderboards by adding the missing games on this site to this section (see other thread i opened up)
• Since JakatoXtra is active now as well, to have at least 2 mods doing stuff for these games.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or on twitter @P_BURRR :) Thanks a lot and kind regards ! PandaBURRR

Thank you very much @Kid_Gamer for this advice ! Will do :)

Hello dear Admins,

I want to request Mod Status, or Super Mod Status on the Gundam Series. Here are some reason's why i request that:

• the Gundam Series seems like a dead series, but it's really not. More people need to pick it up and ARE picking it up, because there are a lot of people loving the games
• the current Mods are not active enough. I look into SRcom every 1-2 days to check for updates, the forums, etc.
• I'm the most active runner, when it comes to those kind of games. there are more to add, and i could improve to growth of the games by just adding them more quickly instead of waiting 2-3 weeks for approval.
• i have a huge knowledge over all kinds of gundam games. this is from its early days, to this day. I played almost every single game there is. i know how mechanics work and how to verify a certain "new game" to the leaderboards.

Please consider adding me, since the current mods, may have 1-2 runs over all on ONE game, while i'm trying to improve and spread all the games for speedrunning and being an active runner and mod on all games i submitted. :) Thank you a lot ! P_BURRR

Since you can't really skip cutscenes after the vocal played, it makes the JP version faster. Still i think, that the Leaderboards should be combined for NTSC-U & J & emulator. We're a small community and should encourage people to do runs. I have no problem with peeps doing emu runs at all. There will be a new runner soon, once he can record runs again. So i think, we should at least vote for that. :)

Hello everyone ! Browsing through the site, i saw some games were not listed under Gundam as a series. I tried to change it for one game, that i added myself, which is: https://www.speedrun.com/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam_Seed_Destiny but i can't seem to add the series to it.

Other games would include: https://www.speedrun.com/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_Side_Story_The_Blue_Destiny

https://www.speedrun.com/SD_Gundam_Dimension_War

and

https://www.speedrun.com/Gundam_Breaker_3

Is it possible to add those to the series as well, so people can all around find them easier?

Thanks a lot !

I've modded my PAL PS2 to play my NTSC-J copies as well as used Swap Magic. I had no issues in case of game speed being different at all. :) Tho the site seems kind of useful for specific games, where dialogue / cutscenes doesn't matter or the NTSC versions aren't accessible / expensive.

Interesting ! I've never heard of a copy of the PAL version before, the wiki doesn't show a release either. I might wanna get my hands on that one as well. :) Thanks for pointing that out. I bought a NTSC-U Copy today. If i have the time this week, i will record both versions and then compare them, to each other.

i see ! maybe i can get a hand on a NTSC-U copy and test it out. I'm not quite sure if it has a huge RNG factor when it comes to acting, or if the messages are fixed before every battle. I can't check if PS3 has faster loading times unfortunately, but i can test all regions on PS2 and Dreamcast once i got a copy of those. Also the game wasn't released in PAL region, so there's only NTSC-U and NTSC-J for PS2 and NTSC-J for Dreamcast. :)

This graphic will show you, which setting you should apply when doing arcade mode runs.

Make sure it saves after going out of the menu.

It is now necessary to show the option menu, before doing Arcade mode runs, to really verify they're legit.

Emulators are allowed on the leaderboards using PCSX2 1.4 upwards!

https://imgur.com/a/5idA7Wj

Why are Region versions now separated? There are no timesaves while playing JPN over the US version of the game. The only thing that changes are text and voice acting. And while in Arcade Mode the time difference is so small, that it doesn't really matter considering the RNG factor this game has anyways. :)

Make a leaderboard for cutsceneless any% maybe? This way the vanilla experience stays the same. Insert loadless timings again to both leaderboards and it should be fine. If that is not the case, option A would personally the best choice.

Hello. I would like to apply as a mod for Mobile Suit Gundam Federation vs. Zeon https://www.speedrun.com/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_Federation_vs._Zeon My runs did not get verified, tho i asked the mod on twitter (11 days ago, run's online for 15 days (not even got a reply)). I'm a mod for other Gundam Games as well and active almost every day of the week. Would be great, if you could add me. Thanks a lot in advance!

Hello everyone!

I'm going to share my newest addition to run the game in a new exciting way, which is Bingo JSRF. Like every other Bingo, timer starts on the New Game button and ends when collecting the last topic of the bingo.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1orL7WZRuipG2OxSTvSPiPKpGUQJW5IbLeyeSibUGEIE/edit#gid=0

So far I included:

• 5 optional Characters to pick up with each row (Rhyth, Jazz, Cube, Soda, Boogie ; marked in red)
• 5 Street Challenge Specials (Dogenzaka Hill Avenue Grind, Shibuya Terminal 13 platforms, Highway 0 Wallrides, 99th Street Gate Grind, Rokkaku-Dai Heights Chimney#1 grin)
• 5 Street Challenge points (Chuo Str. 60k, Sewers 100k, Kibogaoka Hill 250k, Skyscraper 110k, Sky Dino 10k)
• 5 Street Challenge trick combo (99th Str. 50 tricks, Chuo Str. 30 tricks, Shibuya 25 tricks, Bottom Point 50 tricks, Hikage Str. 55 tricks)
• 4 Street Challenge grind combo (Sky Dino 50x, Highway Zero 15x, Kibo 20x, Bottom Point 20x)
• 1 Street Challenge air combo (FRZ 8 air combo)

This is just a work in progress file, and i want to add more goals to it, so i we will have a bingo randomizer on https://bingosync.com/

My thoughts so far are:

• all 5 optional chars before chapter 9
• all street challenges added
• everything gets randomized
• every glitch allowed (out of bounds, skips, etc)

MAYBE

• optional character in chapter 9, like Love Shockers, Immortals, etc.

To me, this would add a new dynamic to the community, as the routing would include cool tricks, skips and glitches.

Note: If you unlock a specific soul via a street challenge, you have to get it as well.

What do you think about it? =)

An example meme run with commentary on the first bingo ever can be found here:

Share your honest thoughts about that idea and how we, as a community, can improve it in this thread please.

<3 Panda

HYPE <3