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New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

yeah looking at that sub-23 looks a lot more feasible; could get it down to like 22:45ish

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

yeah they're both possible, when I reset my data I was able to do ships on first run through

Brontosaurus just requires a different routing; the current route doesn't involve objects large enough to get it so we need a new route that involves more houses

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

yeah i mean it is i just figured to make it like

impossible to get wrong

also exploration mode doesn't count towards object collected totals so rip my idea of doing exploration Sugar Candy to get 800 objects each run followed by a quick In the Beginning run

it looks like the 10k is gonna have to involve the 5 runs of skytop lmao

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

yeah that sounds good

i would just also add in the timer stopping when you complete the stage that gives you the final achievement (so you can choose to do all levels then grind for 10k or grind to 9430 objects and complete Megalopolis and get the 10k and all levels achievement at the same time)

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

just crunched the numbers; you get 6,585 objects from doing all levels

that leaves us with 3415 more objects to collect, and the level with the most objects (and conveniently enough, one of the faster ones) is Skytop Mall at 685 objects.

If we complete Skytop Mall 5 more times, that will put us at 3425 objects, meaning the least amount of levels to complete to get 100% would be 19 stages; all stages once and Skytop Mall six times

I might experiment with the maximum potential objects that can be collected in Sugar Candy since that stage also can be done fairly quickly with a lot of stuff lying around in the end and also check if Exploration Mode counts towards achievements.

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

not a particularly big one, i can deal with 100%

my sugar candy splits are going to be absolutely immaculate

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

After reset

You only really have to do one run since Wonderful Big Bladder isn't a listed in game achievement and even if it were you would just start the game by resetting your data.

I figure we'd just be going by the in-game trophy box as a guideline which i just now realized only holds 10 achievements.

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

i think excluding just the wonderful 10,000 but requiring everything else would help differentiate it

maybe All stages 92%? Because honestly once you finish all the stages it would just be farming Sugar Candy like five or six more times which is kind of mundane

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl4 years ago

was just thinking about this game because gdq just happened and thought about this category idea

basically its get every achievement aside from Wonderful 10,000 because after calculating everything if you beat every level including the two secret levels it leaves you at about 6,500 objects collected, meaning you'd need to grind out 3,500 more which sounds like a chore

but i feel like it would be cool and would change the routing if we went for all other achievements since the normal routes don't go for the brontosaurus, orangutan, donut, or ship iirc

another cool idea might be all levels where we also do arcadia and the sugar candy secret level

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New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Hey everyone, I'm Phyirebawl of the Game On! team. This coming weekend, March 15th to March 17th, is Montclair University Gamers' annual speedrunning marathon, Game On! This is our 8th time running the event, but our first time advertising outside of local channels (Facebook groups, word of mouth, locally at the university, etc)

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New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

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New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

yeah that makes more sense; sub 23 is possible but going to be really hard; I've yet to be able to match that skytop or disco il time which would amount to a 12 second save alone if I matched those

I'm pretty sure if we can figure out how to consistently get objects that you shouldn't be able to get (i.e lantern in beginning) then that would definitely reduce the record for certain ils further but right now sub seems to be the peak

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

the fact that this game can be taken down to sub 20 is stressful but also exciting

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New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Holding arrow keys during loading actually lets you move through the stage before seeing anything; that's intentional.

I don't think it resets your position because I have definitely gained a lot more distance from holding forward down while loading which is important in a lot of stages

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Double posting to say that I'm more inclined to believe some sort of RNG or unknown element exists now based on the first level

If you check out my most recent pb for the first stage you'll see that I pick up the lantern right after getting off the table. This is a pretty huge time save but I have no idea how to make it consistent

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

looks like i have easy to find study material 👀

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New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Part of this I believe has to do with your momentum and the angle at which you approach objects; when you collide fast enough with an object (usually by getting bumped or pinched out of an area) you can typically get objects you normally can't

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Arcadia has a higher object requirement than its hidden counterpart so it's always faster to go to the box stage

In regards to sugar candy and the portal level, I've gotten fairly comparable times, though I think with optimization you could get the portal level to be faster because of jumping

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Also in regards to No Account Video vs. Wallace's Shop:

NAV requires $505 for the late fees, but only $50 to max all stats out to 100 and about $50 more to buy the exp DVDs to hit level 16

Wallace's shop is $260 to max Str, $220 to max spd, and $480 to max def and WP, resulting in a total of $960 to fully max stats

The question I guess would then be: would you save time getting ~300 less dollars if you have to make 12 more purchases!

New Jersey, USAPhiyrebawl5 years ago

Cool, thanks for the response! One other question: for Cheat%, if you're doing a 1P run, would you be allowed to have a 2nd player at the start when spamming Noble Sacrifice? It saves a lot of time not going into the game over screen in comparison to doing it solo

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