Why would it matter if permadeath is set on Whole Game or per chapter or per act when qualifying for a speedrun time? Permadeath is permadeath if you die, the run is over no matter what setting. The conveniance on per chapter is you can easily finish the rest of the run if you want to continue practicing. I think any permadeath setting should be allowed for a run, let me know what you think.

i'm going to start running stunt jumps again and its been a hot minute. i downgraded my steam complete edition to 1.04 ver. via Hoxy, but now i can't get a trainer to work on it. i've tried several versions and we keep crashing. i'm also unsure what to actually add file wise. could someone be so kind and point me in the right direction, i would really appreciate ya! Thanks! - Pdub

I thought this was allowed in Grounded Permadeath runs, but wanted to double check with the mods, is the Persistent Center Dot allowed?

People are starting to run this now and its very popular, set your rules up and let's go !!

shouldn't there be like a minimum score of par at least, this is no skill at all, just pressing buttons as fast as you can. You guys can make the rules whatever you want, let's at least have some skill involved, make it challenging and still a speed run, like you could have tiers. Tier 1 - any score acceptable Tier 2 - par - (-10) Tier 3 - (-11) - (-20) Tier 4 - (-21 or better) otherwise this just seems silly, literally anyone can do this - or you could have a category extension page for this suggestion, I can mod that by myself or with someone

The following rule/revision has been made:

Any type of Blue Screen/Black Screen or obvious glitch can NOT be paused with the timer, the timer must continue while you re load the encounter

And the following rule has been added

If you acquire an obvious glitch where you cannot progress in an area where you are not allowed a restart encounter, a restart encounter is allowed to continue

We have came up with something a bit different for these runs, you can take a break from the run if you want to go to the bathroom or just simply stand up and stretch or grab a sandwich. Please pause your timer and game at the same time and turn them both on at the same time. Let's not take advantage of this wonderful privilege, and the following are the exact rules for every category:

Pausing the timer to take breaks is allowed in this run. Timer and game must be paused simultaneously. Do not exploit this privilege. Any run must be completed in one sitting and not carried over to the next day.

Have fun and enjoy !!

After talking with all of the mods, we came up with 5 different runs that are creative and unique for the Misc category, here is what we propose and the rules and instructions for each (standard rules apply)

All NEW GAME:

1. Grounded: No Death

2. Easy: No Death

3. Grounded: low %

4. Grounded: Challenge

5. Easy: Challenge

6. Grounded: No Death allow only (2) restart encounter at david Boss fight & Bar in Searchlight

(until we find more that are needed to avoid a glitch that stops you from continuing the game, like the david boss fight)

2. Easy: No Death allow only (2) restart encounter at david Boss fight & Bar in Searchlight

(until we find more that are needed to avoid a glitch that stops you from continuing the game, like the david boss fight)

3. Grounded: Low% Only allowed to acquire and use resources/ammo that are forcibly given to the player or are required to be acquired in order for progress to be made.

Any Restart encounters are allowed

4. Grounded: Challenge complete a 0 death run on Grounded difficulty with: no med kits, no shiv tricks, no shiv doors, no upgrades (pills), no upgrades (parts), & no guns (can use bow).

allow only (2) restart encounter at david Boss fight & Bar in Searchlight (until we find more that are needed to avoid a glitch that stops you from continuing the game, like the david boss fight)

5. Easy: Challenge a 0 death run on easy difficulty with: no med kits, no shiv tricks, no shiv doors, no upgrades (pills), no upgrades (parts), no guns (can use bow) AND kill every possible enemy.

allow only (2) restart encounter at david Boss fight & Bar in Searchlight (until we find more that are needed to avoid a glitch that stops you from continuing the game, like the david boss fight)

We think these categories will add fun and more exposure to the game and help us all as streamers, especially with the sequel eventually coming out. - thanks - pdub