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PeruPaper4Haper10 months ago

Maybe it´s well, a bit late but if you wanna know exactly how much time is the difference, here I made a video about it, but yeah, Digital is faster but the difference is not big

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PeruPaper4Haper1 year ago

We agree but we need runs to put the scuffle island category on

PeruPaper4Haper1 year ago

I think it would be a great idea, but it would be with the Misc. like the Ringers, apart of that I like the idea.

Also, I think the Streamers IL I think they can be based when the loading sequence end, I mean, when you beat Red streamer, olivia talks and then appears a "saving", so when it ends and START moving, that would be the time when the Next streamer will count, also I say this because if you reload the game, it would appear after that and you start the run when Mario is moving after that (that is for the people that have saving data in that part). This metod can work on blue, yellow, purple and green streamer, for king olly it would be when you leave the place where you fight Scissors (that is for Bowser skip and for the people that have a saving data in that place), the time will count after the screen where off.

It would be good idea Idk if you agree with this

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PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

For the streamers category, I think is different in every stream. I believe that the better option from start every stream is here:

Red stream: Start when you select the file at the start of the game

Blue, yellow, purple, green stream: Start after you beat the previous streamer, I mean, after you destroy the stream, olivia talk or someone else talk and then there is a auto save, in that time the next stream start, and the same case if you are doing a individual run, your run start when mario appears after you selected the file, and not when the file of that part is selected (because I think that make you lose 3 sec)

King Olly: This is curious because in some runs you can skip the autosave for bowser cinematic skip, so in that case I´m not sure how could it be, maybe like Y_U say, when you enter to the bowser ship and the autosave is charged, maybe that can work with king olly

For the Boss rush, yes i think King olly can´t be included, but maybe can exist 2 types of boss rush, bosstronic only, and all bosses, bosstronic only is, you know, all the bosses from bosstronic, and all bosses include king olly, that is my idea but it depends how the comunity takes

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

So in conclusion, bosstronic rush is all the bosses but the time is counted with the in-game time, and for the streamers runs? we do like starting when the autosave end (or in case of starting in a separe streamer when the screen Mario appears), or when the confeti upgrade animation end in the previous chapter?

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

Press F for King Olly, also yeah true, but I thought we do a external timer because the transition of click to the other boss also take time, so if someone edit a video of only putting all the bosses in one video, that it will count? (also, go to king olly isn´t hard, you have like 2 pipe and yes you are in his suit)

Edit: Well it would be optional if we separted bossrush with only time in-game and why king olly, that would it works?

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

Wait that i don´t think that, because you know, you can select all you bossfight ingame best segment and put it together, I think when we do a bossrush, is not about like only the bosses, it´s the move that you do to get the goal, like a moutain and in every high there is a boss, you need to be faster going to it, and in a one run, also include king olly, It´s crazy that we talk about bossrush bot olly is excluded D:

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

I think the gategory of every stream can be separated like the Ringer is separeted, you put the category "Streamers" or "Chapters" and that how we can separate, trying to say how the stream will count, well, I thinking about you can publish your chapters run that you did in a full run, so if we trying doing when the autosave of every chapter end, that would be easy for the people that use cloud save and start the savedata, the time will start as soon as Mario appears at the screen, not when you select the save data, Why? because that could be more easy to submit for those who do full runs and wanna submit it too (yeah I think this method is more accesible than mine (save before the bossfigth and start when the screen of the confeti of the previous chapter end) and well the time end like normal, when the green screen of the confetti is off. (I support my idea for been more precise, why? because there is more text boxes before the autosave appears, in overlook tower, in shogun studios, in yellow stream the toads say thank you and that is part of the purple stream I feel, Idk it depends on how we decided it for individual runners and full game runners

And for BossRush, I have a crazy idea and is including King Olly too, how? well, the time will start when WE ENTER TO THE MACHINE (i mean, when the green screen appers, why, i feel it count like we entering to the boss ), and after we beat all the bosses (you need to beat then first if you don´t wanna that the bowser trophy animation appears) we left that and go to King olly suit and beat him, stoping the time in the last hit of king olly. We need to honor all the bosses, Olly too

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

I think we need to include the start of the game, I mean, if we discoverd some skips in the start or in the forest, that also count for Red streamer. Also don´t forget the other streamer, that would be interesting

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PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

I think Bossrush, streams and all toads can be in the full run game category, like with the ringer

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

My idea is about streamer or called chapters, the chapter 1 or red streamer start when you enter the game and finish when the confeti expand animation ends, the chapter 2 or blue streamer star after that animation end and finish with the same thing that chapter 1 finished with the confeti, so if you are in a full run you can publish also your best streamers runs, and if you wanna try it alone, you can save before the bossfight and start when the confeti animation end (that is because some chapters have text boxes after that so in a full run that can be easy to estimate). And if that isn´t a good idea, we can try when the autosave finished the load, so it´s easy to restart in alone runs but it will take a little more time for the full run.

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

Japan and Eng have the same speed, but what about the other language, because I speedrun the game in spanish, it makes it slower? (because in a microgame in Ashley level, when you need tu eliminate a letter of the alphabet, in english the game said you what letter eliminate, but in spanish is like, you have to know which letter eliminate, i don´t know how works in other language aparte those

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

Yeah I saw a speedrun about that, i thought that the category existed, but it seems that there isn´t, it would be a good idea see that cathegory

PeruPaper4Haper2 years ago

But we have separte boss categories, on leadboards there are every boss separated. or you mean all of them together in a group

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