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Wisconsin, USAMyOhMyPancakes2 years ago

This forum post will be used to discuss what is a skip and what courses as of right now have skips.

What we have now: Since the last time I made a forum post here (back in 2020), runners have found a way to exploit the checkpoint system and out of bounds reset system to get faster times. Since the exploit was found (Originally mentioned by Discord user Insomniac_rap) multiple tracks have been found to have ways to get a faster time. When it became apparent that a lot of tracks had these exploits, we decided to put a new category to acknowledge the faster times.

What is the debate about: The debate is around how do we define when a runner does a skip. At the moment we have a skip defined as "A "skip" is when the player abuses out of bounds to cause them to go further up the course, potentially getting a lap skip." Now this definition can easily be changed, but this definition has caused a problem with two tracks, Houston and Detroit.

Houston's "Skip": For Houston it was found that at the end of the track you can jump over to the finish line, then turn around after the finish line to finish a lap (video for example, right now in Non Skip ). It was then found you could jump all the way into out of bounds then get reset behind the finish to finish a lap (video in Skips ). This is where the debate lies, would either route be considered a skip or if we changed the definition, would that cause both of these to be changed.

Detroit "Skip": This one was found by very recently, it was found to be viable to hit the last jump and go straight towards the finish line, either hitting the side and bouncing up, or getting reset by hitting out of bounds (Video in skips ). The debate again lies in that is this considered a skip.

Feel free to put in your opinion at the bottom, once it feels like we have come to a consensus, I will like the post and make the changes as needed.

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Wisconsin, USAMyOhMyPancakes4 years ago

Hi guys, I'm back with an update, with a few changes. One we have a discord now that I just made minutes ago of when I was typing this up, hang out there so we can stop using the sites messaging system. Second, all IL runs must have the end screen when you get a PB, so that there is proof that it saved to your emulator or cartridge. Lastly, this will be the place I will show updates to the community to show official rulings/updates. Like recently, that we decided that downhill will be a category, just be careful with it, because it will save the downhill time as the best time.

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Wisconsin, USAMyOhMyPancakes4 years ago

I was just wondering if you guys would allow that version on this leaderboard.

If people don't know you can unlock the original excitebike on Excitebike 64 by completing the tutorial mode.

Wisconsin, USAMyOhMyPancakes5 years ago

Hello, I am one of the new moderators for Excitebike 64, and I’m thankful that Leopold67 made me a moderator, the same goes with him doing so for Andou88, glad he also made him a moderator. I wanted to use this forum to discuss, and tell you what my plans are for the community. Some of the changes already went into effect, but I will talk to the moderators before we make a big change. Let’s start with,

Fixing Individual Level leaderboards.

So if you have already seen, I fixed the IL leaderboards. Before, erru9107 made the leaderboard, but they didn’t really fit on what IL leaderboards are supposed to be, so I changed it, going from “Bronze ILs” to Best Race Time and Best Lap Time. Each course is to be done on the default lap settings, all extra courses that were added (Kyoto (Challenge)) were deleted as they were just a 1 lap version of the track. I also added the special tracks (Excitebike 3D, Uphill, and Desert). Desert and Uphill you do not have to worry about a lap time, just focus on the race time. As of right now, the downhill cheat will not have a leaderboard, and any run submitted using that cheat will get rejected. My ideas would only be to see if people are interested in a downhill leaderboard.

Old runs.

If you had an old run that was waiting to get verified that you deleted, please let us know, and resubmit that time. I mostly made this section because of Meauxdal’s forum post, as I do think it was a little harsh the way he was talking about the mods, now that we have the moderators to verify sooner, I will privately message him if he wants that run verified. Again, if you are waiting on a run for a couple days to get verified, let us know.

Cyberscore

This next section is for another leaderboard that has Excitebike 64. Cyberscore.uk has some times getting submitted on there, but they do not enforce video proof. My idea was to cross all of the times from there to get a better understanding on what the leaderboards look like. This idea is up to the other moderators and the community if they would want this, I would be happy either way.

Video Proof

This is something I want to address, personally for me, I think a less strict rule on video proof would be better as most people don’t think to record their times, or don’t have a good recording device for those runs. This is something I will discuss with Andou to see what he thinks, at least making it a “Top 3 runs must have video proof” something along those lines.

That’s all I have at the moment, anything that has not been addressed, let us know and we will try and make a ruling for that. I’m excited to get this community bigger. Thank you for reading, and happy racing!

-MyOhMyPancakes

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Wisconsin, USAMyOhMyPancakes5 years ago

Feel free to use this thread to give me ideas for this game, if I fail to respond after awhile please feel free to message me through discord.

Wisconsin, USAMyOhMyPancakes6 years ago

When the end of the year came around, me and Doctor Feesh both worked on the year end review. One thing I found really annoying was trying to find the days each time was hit, so I was bored and decided to make a PowerPoint/slideshow to elaborate on the months on each pb when it was hit in that month (starting with Janurary 2019). I will be doing for each month as time goes on. Couple things before you go looking at these. 1. I will link them, but will not let anyone have editing rights (hopefully I get the link right/let me know if they do not work). 2. These times were when they were a.) uploaded to Youtube, b.) Submitted on the leaderboards, or c.) If I see them live. 3. I have made a graph comparing each month to see which months were the most active, they will be at the end of the Power-points and will have them up to date to that month with each slide.

Janurary 2019 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wtCKqOqj93VB75Xvc4KsOFxkBwcdCR_qTQrfJTeLhcs/edit?usp=sharing

February 2019 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nfsgDot3_GzdJAHcVZmibbpR2TRhIvnmTdV4wFQRkVg/edit?usp=sharing

March/April 2019 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mMw-CEcFXq1bQO_hMeF-w6DgNlF2RdU-dinXVRGiOTU/edit?usp=sharing

May 2019 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1DiMhZxGp_dQlVQPr8XPQIVZZISvpV0oZSMJAx58bUlw/edit?usp=sharing

June 2019 https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1GQVPkvLHgM0g8Z5ZyX1Yz0IcAmLM9Y3LZ3r_IU1tLuk/edit?usp=sharing

July 2019 a.k.a 2019 Wave Race Olympics https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yPUcypoARShCg_Z6rilY2Bfy02bR4nGkRH_F-PY-tAg/edit?usp=sharing

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