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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave1 year ago

As Legacy noted, the Hot Dogger was allowed to be used back when the game came out and the boards established as the category with only the base knife was seen as too long and tedious.

Adding a separate category for just the base knife just doesn't make much sense since it's essentially the same as current Knife Only, but much, much slower. Knife Only for this game (and most RE runs) is already a pretty niche category, and adding a separate one that even less people would run would just clutter the board. Feel free to run it on the side, however!

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave1 year ago

We never banned it and I would argue that it should be allowed, only because it's more optimal in NG+ to only have two assault coins for inventory purposes, as that plus the infinite rocket launcher will allow you to one shot pretty much any enemy in the game already.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

Just the first one.

Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

https://github.com/SpeedrunTooling/SRTPluginManager/releases/tag/1.0.0.8

Install the Plugin Manager and the various plugins for RE3R, then under User Interfaces install Resident Evil 3 Remake (Winforms). If you launch it correctly it should launch the legacy SRT, the only difference being the unfortunate exclusion of thousandths of a second.

Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

You're most likely comparing against Real Time, make sure to compare against Game Time so that the script aligns with IGT.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

Sorry for a late follow-up response, fellas! Busy with holiday stuff.

The idea of forcing a pause at the beginning of the run seems like it could work, and like Salad said, it doesn't really matter what the time at the typewriter is specifically, but it's key that a pause is forced at the very beginning of the run and would have to be enforced pretty strictly (even going past the item box without pausing would be a reject IMO).

That said I also share the concerns with Silky in that tenths of a second DO matter. Just look at what happened last week with me and Minotaur being tied in No Intro Standard on PC--even a fraction of a second matters very much when the game is that optimized. Now on the other hand I don't think any console category is as optimized as NIS on PC, nor will it ever be, but I can see it being a controversial issue in the future if let's say, a WR was potentially decided by it.

I don't run console so I don't have a horse in this race, but I still care about leaderboards being as accurate as possible, so this one is up to the console runners on if you want to carry the baggage on that or not, since at the end of the day we're all just trying to have a good time and the Intro very quickly makes this game not fun. We'll try to talk more about this throughout the week and the next since it's a busy time, and I encourage everyone to keep discussing (just keep it civil, please).

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

This is something we've thought over, but unfortunately, as Silky has said, with runs being timed via IGT and there being no way to manipulate it on console as there's no trainer, makes setting up such a category in a way that's fair to everyone (and even more importantly, accurate) pretty much impossible.

I'm open to suggestions but the only viable way I can think of setting up such a category would be to time the category via RTA, which opens up a whole new net of issues, namely:

  1. This would require console runners to stream their runs via capture card on a PC, in which case playing on said PC is a much simpler solution.
  2. This would make the run vastly more pay to win than it is right now.

Feel free to add if you have ideas.

Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

You might have made a mistake on your part. This has been tested thoroughly and there is no bug where the game will give you a vaccine with only one of the ingredients.

Also general rule of thumb is that if you find a potential glitch/exploit/skip, it's your job to replicate it and record a video demonstrating it rather than telling others to do so.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave2 years ago

No Merchant is already a category on this board.

The closest thing we have to 100% is All Treasures on our Category Extensions board.

No Damage and No Kill/Pacifist are more so challenge runs rather than speedruns, as they require strats that are often very slow and antithetical to speedrunning. While you can run them on your own if you'd like, we're not planning on adding them to our CE page.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

If this were a thing it would need to be its own game page, with its own set of rules and mods. No reason to tie it with this game when they're completely different entities.

Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

Watch my new setup video under Guides. Most likely you messed up and picked up items before saving and/or didn't do the 15s trick. In the video I make a No Intro Inferno save and it works perfectly.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

Unlocking this thread momentarily to update everyone:

The leaderboards have been updated to include No Intro as a subcategory under PC categories. I haven't finished everything and rules still need to be updated and so on but you can start submitting runs now if you'd like. Also made a new video that I added under guides which thoroughly explains the setup if you wanna hop in on it and need help. Thank you all again for participating and for your guys' patience. We'll make more changes and additions to the boards as time goes on as we see fit.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

The results for the votes are in:

-The YES vote for the category being made has won with 67 out of 73 votes.

-The YES vote for mods being allowed in a No Intro category have won by 54 out of 73 votes.

Thank you to everyone who participated. We'll be updating the boards throughout the week and finalizing all rules.

Happy running, everyone.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

Just a reminder everyone! Voting for No Intro ends in 3 days, so if you haven't voted yet please do so ASAP. I'll be posting the results on both here and the discord. Have a good weekend everyone.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

Hey guys,

After some extensive debate, we've decided to open up a vote for a potential "No Intro" category. This category, using an edited save file you make on your own, would start the run at the subway typewriter with your IGT set to 0.

See my video on how to set up said save file using the trainer, it's very easy to do:

With this new category come some ground rules, namely:

  1. Inventory must be set up in a specific way for each category.
  2. SRT or Overlay must be displayed at ALL TIMES. Livesplit can be ran on the side but does not substitute the former.
  3. Your save must be made properly in order to avoid bugging the enemy AI outside the subway. Follow the video exactly in making your saves.

More extensive rules going into detail have already been written down but will be publically posted if the vote is a success. The usual rules from the main game categories such as an FPS cap and two minute limits being enforced for pauses will still be in effect for this category.

And finally, we're also putting to a vote the legality of visual mods for use in runs of this specific category. If a success, we will allow COSMETIC ONLY mods to be used in No Intro runs (any mods that break ToS or make gameplay related changes are universally banned).

To explain the reasoning on why we're only allowing visual mods for this category: we want this category if it goes through to be the "non-vanilla" category where we're more relaxed on some rules, while the full game category we've been running up until now is the true, vanilla category. The latter will still be considered the main category of the game, but No Intro will be there as a viable alternative for those who want a shorter run and don't want to have to deal with the various autoscrollers at the beginning of the run.

And finally, to address it, this is unfortunately only being considered for PC due to the use of the trainer.

FORMS PAGE FOR VOTING: https://forms.gle/uBfdZkX5HaepPTQ28

This is bound to be a divisive and controversial decision either way, so while some people might be heated on one side or another, we ask that everyone be respectful of one another; we're all friends at the end of the day.

Happy running everyone!

Voting will end on March 23rd at 7pm PST.

3/12/21 UPDATE FOR NIGHTMARE AND INFERNO:

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

We don't do IL boards ala RE5 on any of our boards. If you're looking to run Separate Ways, we have categories for it set up on both the main console and Steam leaderboards. Check the "View Rules" tab there for specifics.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave3 years ago

What you're describing is the New Game+ category, which is one of the main categories listed on our board. Like other NG+ categories for other games, it allows you to use whatever post-game items you want, including the infinite rocket launcher and assault rifle (though optimally, only the rocket launcher is ever used since there's no need for the AR).

Hope that answers your question.

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Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave4 years ago

Unless your run is WR, just a photo of the final typewriter save made after you finish your run will suffice. If it is WR, we will need a VOD of the run, which may be recorded on a phone facing your screen, so long as we can see the entire screen clearly enough.

Also should note that ALL No Merchant and Assignment Ada runs require a VOD.

Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave4 years ago

No. :)

(Also if we see people making obviously fake, sockpuppet accounts in order to upvote themselves then they will be blacklisted from the community.)

Los Angeles, CA, USAMikeWave4 years ago

Hey guys, after months of testing and fine-tuning, we’re happy to announce that the new load remover timer will be made official in three days (7/18). Hopefully by the end of today, the new LRT will be submitted to LiveSplit, so people will have easy access to the script like they did before. To give some info on the new timer for the uninitiated:

-This is a load-remover that removes nearly ALL load screens. On top of door loads, this timer removes all inventory and merchant loads as well. And on top of THAT, it compensates for frames dropped during a run, making this by far the most fair and accurate timer so far, thus leveling out the playing field completely. -This timer was originally made by Pitted, who also made it so it split on specific doors. The script we’re making the “official” one is a variant of Pitted’s script made by Wipe, who increased the amount of options and customization in the script. Wipe’s script works on ALL categories where it didn’t before, including Ada categories, NG/NG+ Easy/Amateur, and No Merchant categories. You’ll also be able to choose between splitting on chapters or splitting on doors. This script also works on 30 FPS, besides just working on 60. -Subsplits currently aren’t available for Easy and No Merchant categories, but you can use chapter splits for them. Subsplits ARE available for the Ada categories, though.

To give some explanation on what took this change so long, it’s due to the fact that we wanted this to be the “ultimate” timer, with no rocks left unturned. Also, we want this to be the very last time we have to change what timers we’re running on. From now on, we’re hoping there won’t be any more timer memes, and we can just focus instead on actually running the game and optimizing it even more.

Like the last change, all former times done with only the former LRT won’t be invalid. Though if you did a run with both the old and new LRT open, we’ll go ahead and edit your times to reflect the faster LRT. DM one of us if you need your time edited.

And one final note: people can keep running on Pitted’s original script if they want, but we encourage people to pick up the new script and move over to that for the sake of uniformity, and also because it’ll give you more options. Also, we’re explicitly banning the old LRT from use in the Separate Ways and Separate Ways+ categories, as the old LRT gives a massive advantage in being completely paused in between chapters.

Thanks for reading this, and happy 1-1 reseting everyone!

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