then I pin my hopes on him I guess

So I live in the eastern US and I looked at flights to ESA quite early on since I did some research and knew that if I waited then my prices would go real high (I paid ~$1000 roundtrip last year). The best deal I found was NY - Helsinki, so I took the opportunity to take the legendary ferry. I also got the fare this early out of fear of the prices skyrocketing.

Ghetto itinerary: arriving in Helsinki on July 20th at 8:50 AM, leaving on July 31st at 5:10 PM.

My hope is that all y'all can agree to what I predicted would be good for getting to / leaving ESA, since I can't really change my ticket now and I don't want to take a ferry alone, although I don't think that it'll be an issue now that I'm making this post. Just FYI.

It works for now, but as I said above it's prone to someone finding another method to do the same glitch (that doesn't take a billion years of waiting to do). Would work as a colloquial name but not as a name for the leaderboards imo

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@FREW: If it wasn't incredibly hard (or even impossible) to have a concise name that doesn't involve an acronym, then hell yeah, but people keep complaining about the ACE name anyway so this is a quick'n'easy fix for that. To be fair, the ACE name was conjured before the leaderboard split was made, so it was not as much of a 'problem', but a name should be settled on once and for all and in the current state of affairs I think SSU fits the bill pretty well.

tbh I just submitted my regular 100% time to in-game 100% half because of resentment of it being there, and half for memes.

Anyway, I think most people would be satisfied with the answer of "no SSU bans the warp to the end of the game". If they wanna know more then they can get linked Nick's description of the glitch on Reddit, and then say that "this category is any% without that". Kinda like what we're doing now, isn't it?

in reference to Frew and his GDQ run.

I like SSU the most. It's definitely the most futureproof in case other methods besides the store clerk (and chopper checkpoint) crop up, and it's dead accurate as far as I know. Also, I am 99.9% sure that the name won't scare people off because the category 'scares' people as it is, even myself. I am 100% for naming it SSU.

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it'd only make sense for the capture point maps, and even then it's just trying your luck against how bad the people you play against are or something unless you do a custom game and just capture them both immediately which would also ruin the point. idk, I've considered it before but I don't think it would be a good way to speedrun the game.

I made a version that automatically starts and splits upon starting and ending missions (specially for ILs). Functionally, it's an updated version of the load time removal script though, so I'll toss it here. (anyone can use it but if you don't want start/split functionality, then you can disable them.)

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=60490619389332238506

OK, I finally made the "change". All the times will remain the same as they were before unless you manually retime your run and edit the time without loads, or if you already used the script and want to submit the time that didn't matter before (AKA nobody except for my any% ACE run). but y'all should use it from now on, or else...

yes

there is none

http://www.speedrun.com/aoe2fe http://www.speedrun.com/aoe2ak http://www.speedrun.com/aoe2rotr

I'd like for these to be set to "modification".

Also, set the last one to have Age of Empires II as its base game whenever that's functional again.

Maybe, I haven't played much of it yet but I have lingering thoughts. I might turn out like you have so don't act on it yet.

I played through it and it's pretty fun, just that the game froze up in a weird way at some point. I first lost control of the mouse for a few seconds, then the keyboard, then it all just froze. I'm not sure if that's a product of the mod or not though.

Gaël: Not a bad idea, the main any% board is basically a graveyard at this point anyway, so why not make it a museum? I'm just not sure if I'd keep my 19:49 (which was WR for a few hours so I guess it's relevant) or my 53:01 which is an actual good run. I think there's an option on here to separate runs with different variables, so both can be displayed on the same category I think.

S: yeh

Also, as of now they are still all under Any%. There definitely should be some separation between these two categories, subcategory or not, and I just thought of the fact that "beat the game, no restrictions" conflicts with "beat the game like it used to be done so basically beat the game with some restrictions". A separate category with a new name could actually cater to that.

... because everyone who liked it didn't care, and everyone who didn't like it also didn't care enough to make a thread discussing what should change or why it's a bad change, but were still annoying enough to make me care enough to make the thread myself.

With that, I will clear up a few things about my motivation behind doing it in the first place. With any% 'long' being a dead category, and me having better preoccupations than to care about a video game, this went unchecked for a while. KZ_FREW recently started practicing this pre-August version of any% which he had been told could be referred to as "Any%, No ACE" (ACE standing for arbitrary code execution). As soon as I saw this name and realized what it meant, I 1) thought it was much much better than "Any% Warpless", to the point where I'd accept it personally, and 2) wondered if instapasses were actually ACE. Of course that's a technicality, albeit an obvious one, but once people were told that it basically just meant old any%, most of them just rolled with it.

Some time before I made the change (probably a day or two before), Odyssic threw the suggestion out and I realized that yes, this is a thing that should happen and it might get people interested in running VC again, with the "official" reintroduction of a relatively short, enjoyable speedrun. It didn't cross my mind at the time that there was the trend of people ceasing to run things that have no official leaderboard, but doing them if they're a main leaderboard category. In hindsight, that's actually further argument to keep the change, since I've seen numerous people playing the game, which is totally cool.

The way the change took place was that I added a variable called "ACE", set all runs default to the "No ACE" value, and manually edited each new run to "ACE". Variables on the site can be toggled to be subcategories, and I did that, so if you're complaining about this being so huge, then realize that if it ABSOLUTELY has to be undone, it's so damn simple.

Also, yes, I know the name isn't perfect. In its current form, it's alright. The main criterion for a good speedrun category name should be conciseness. It should be short, while also describing what it actually is quite well. If a name is too nondescript and short, you end up with shit like Classic%, but if it's too bulky and long, then Any% No ACE could be referred to as "Any% without doing tricks to start any mission at will". I've heard of "Any% no stack underflow", which is another acceptable name IMO, but it only really makes sense to those who know how the big KYFC warp works. It's still quite short and descriptive and I think it's better than "No ACE" by a bit.

One last point is that the variable might not end up having to be a subcategory division, but I think it makes sense. If there was no division, it'd simply be that every ACE run would be on top, and every No ACE run would be on the bottom, like it was before. The split makes the board a lot cleaner and understandable.

TL;DR, the change is welcome by many; yes, the name isn't perfect, but I think "Any% No Stack Underflow" is a viable name candidate, but discuss this here; and while I very strongly advocate for this not to be reversed, it can be done so easily if the world will end otherwise.

Discuss.

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