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Washington, USAGreenBomber5 years ago

I am honestly not entirely sure what the rules are for this category, I assume you must grab the item on each stage, but the description states just grab one of each item like if you collect a fire up, then you don't ever need to grab another one. Can the community come together about this please and enlighten me with what is considered All Items?

Washington, USAGreenBomber5 years ago

I read that in the game faq for the PS2 version that there are a lot of bugs and glitches. None that im aware of that help out in a speedrun but I found this:

Washington, USAGreenBomber5 years ago

It has been highly debated what the fastest Any% route for this game is. Any% is broken into 3 Categories (Dino,Bird,Mammal)

With very few runners (especially active) it is still not fully understood which is the fastest route. I can however Verify that Mammal is definitely the SLOWEST any% route at this point and time.

Mammal is however the most POPULAR route, given it has the most runners, and quite frankly one of the only categories that has multiple runners atm. (this could change in the future, but not much interest has been shown aside from my own)

Q: so why do so many people run Mammal?

A: The first RTA (Real-Time-Attempt(s)) of the game were documented to be done by DarkwingDuck_SDA. DarkwingDUCK_SDA mostly ran Mammal, and during that time it was believed that Mammal was the fastest route for an RTA speedrun (Non-TAS)

A fun Fact is that DWD also did runs of Bird a long while back, and the Bird route is Definitely the Fastest Any% route for a TAS (Tool-Assisted-Speedrun) of the game.

HOWEVER, DWD did not ever expirement with not upgrading DIno to either Bird or Mammal, which I have most recently discovered and argue that at this point and time DINO IS THE FASTEST RTA any% route a human can do.

So while I am pretty Well set on my claim that Dino is the fastest route for a human to run, it is still possible that Bird route might at some point be pushed to a level close to the Dino Route.

I definitely believe a Bird route RTA can surpass the time of a Mammal RTA, with a combination of RNG in your favor, along with good execution. I do not however believe a Human will be able to capitilize on all of the Time saves in Bird route that can be obtained in a TAS speedrun.

Take my Bird PB atm 49:38 (tied with DWD's Mammal run) it got the Rainbow meat during the oyster grind, which saved a significant amount of time, however New strats are coming about and riskier strats that I am definitely aware of are out there that can save time in lots of places.

I will List the Categories in order in which RTA runs are faster, so if Bird surpsasses Mammal in the future I will Swap them.

My belief is that the leaderboards will at some point be :

DINO > BIRD > MAMMAL

as of now based on the best times listed on the leaderboards it is currently

DINO > MAMMAL > BIRD

So in conclusion, ik i dropped alot of knowledge in this forum, but as the Supermod of this page I WILL ALWAYS LIST FASTEST RTA ANY% Categories FIRST!!

New Game + and 100% record evolutions I feel are big enough categories to where they should be listed as major categories as opposed to MISC categories.

All Misc categories were exclusively made to showcase parts of the games that WERE NOT SEEN in all of the main categories.

Hope this helps with understanding why so many categories, why no straight up ANY% category, and primarily why they are listed in the order that they are.

Washington, USAGreenBomber6 years ago

I have the Japanese version of this game, it's called Rune 2 in Japan. Why only US and Pal on the Leaderboards, the JP Version is legit

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Washington, USAGreenBomber7 years ago

not sure what the official rules are for this category. No password meaning no Game overs at all im assuming.

And not sure what is considered power up what not.

Like can clocks, or vests be picked up or no?

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Washington, USAGreenBomber7 years ago

Sorry about the previous confusion on the leaderboards, the three categories Mammal JPRTA, Bird JPRTA, and Dino JPRTA have been deleted.

The reason why is because now we have added separate timing for each category regardless.

JP Timing is 43s for Intro, and 4m 30s for credits so 5m 13 sec Total when subtracting to get SDA Time

also the milliseconds are involved and could either add or subtract a second from that difference

Washington, USAGreenBomber7 years ago

After several resets, I was unable to get similar door spawns. It is possible much like in Super Bomberman that if you start the game on a specific frame that you could get a specific set of stages. If anybody is willing to look into it that would be awesome, but as of now the All Stages run consists of getting lucky with finding the doors.

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Washington, USAGreenBomber7 years ago

Late Split on purpose, and hit 4:20 exactly

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Washington, USAGreenBomber7 years ago

Love the 4 different color bombs for top 4 times <3

Washington, USAGreenBomber8 years ago

I need to start rolling deep in LA, can't even wall jump or do shit atm

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Washington, USAGreenBomber8 years ago

Gonna learn Super Bomberman 2, Watch out Le Hulk and Ice Plug

Washington, USAGreenBomber8 years ago

i am asking to add a new category, even if it is just under misc categories.

No Sword 3 Heart Run

Or Low% No Sword 3 heart minimum items run

Washington, USAGreenBomber8 years ago

Roll Deep Sons, keep it real and hold it down with those fresh ALTTP runs

Washington, USAGreenBomber8 years ago

Any% should not be the only category. The rules aren't even defined on when to start and stop timer. There should be Any% Human Any% Orc Any% full game I would say start timer on selecting to start Orc or Human Campaign and end timer at Final Mission complete as the box comes up after the mission. I am looking to do runs of this game but I want to start with running Orc and Human Campaigns separate. So I won't be able to submit those runs on speedrun.com This goes out to MicroElf

Also i wouldn't mind being a mod

Washington, USAGreenBomber8 years ago

E.V.O. Search for Eden is one of the best games ever made, I the RPGodfather encourage more people to run this game, although I know it is scary looking at my times that are clearly unmatched with the Ruggedness

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