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Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

I don't know when that happened, but I can't follow any game or series anymore. The Follow Button is just not there anymore on any game/ series page for me. Also the unfollow button for games I already follow isn't there anymore as well. Has anyone else that issue ? I'm using Firefox by the way.

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

For anyone who want's to join the Fast Racing Neo discord server.

Here is the link: https://discordapp.com/invite/0gFdCdNQJ3wTeWqz

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

I know it is a lot more convenient to just take a screenshot of your best time, but imo a screenshot is not enough proof, as the times achieved can still be done via cheating or hacking and only video proof can validate a time. For example I could submit my 5:02:597 titanium cup time see here: http://i.imgur.com/4JoQ7TV.jpg even though I achieved the time in Hypersonic and it somehow got saved in all 3 leagues, so I bashed the previous WR by 40 secs ( don't ask me how I did that, I just played some random championships ). And there are also all those highly suspicious subsonic times ...

Another reason why video proof is good, is that when a time gets achieved, you can see the strats and tricks used and makes it possible to share and develop new strats a lot better.

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

So as we will get this mess of a leaderboard cleaned up soon hopefully, we should start to talk about what actual speedrun categories we want to have. Here is a list of suggestions:

  • all cups subsonic
  • all cups supersonic
  • all cups hypersonic
  • all cups all speeds
  • every single cup for its own (should rather go into the IL section imo)
  • all tracks TA ( either all of them on hypersonic or on all speeds or splice into their own speeds )
  • all tracks hero mode
  • 300% as unlock and beat everything in the game from a fresh file
  • beat all staff times ( is very similar to all tracks TA, so I'm rather against this, but I'm listing it here just in case )

we could start listing all categories and see if there is any interest or not, so if there is no interest in a certain category we can remove it.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

It's probably nothing big, but I encountered a glitch when casually playing this game (on the PAL version):

Whenever you win a fight, you see a winning animation by Brian. If you are quickly enough you can use a spell during that animation ( there is a small frame window where you can start using a spell at the beginning of the animation). For example you can use a heal spell and interrupt the animation which can cause the music to not play for some reason. I haven't really looked deep into that, but maybe you can also pause, use an item or a different spell instead and cause something weird. Feel free to mess with this.

It's not something big, but I just wanted to have told the community about it as it may turn out to be useful with more research.

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

The purpose of this topic should be clear, so here are my suggestions:

Some leaderboards have both a RTA and an IGT column and it would make a lot of sense to add that to all staff ghosts and maybe all cups. Speaking of all staff ghosts, I agree with superSANIC that loading the staffs is pretty much only a waste of time and noone likes to do that, so we might want to change it to "all tracks time attack".

The only problem is that all current runs on the leaderboard are optimized for all staffs making it a bad RTA time for all tracks TA, so if we use IGT then there is almost no difference anymore. The only disadvantage is that you somehow need to weight in deaths and resets. The only solution I have in mind for that is to add the time on the last frame visible when before you die/ reset.

Btw. we can put all cups + all cups master to one category and just add on what difficulty you did the run on ( novice, standard, expert, master and custom ).

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

I think a thread for sharing strats is not a bad idea.

Currently I'm trying to find out the fastest any% ( bronze ) strats for the GDI Campaign. I already figured out some interesting strats. I'm planning to record them sometime and then upload and link them in here.

The only interesting thing I found so far is that there are main objectives that can be skipped, so the game probably doesn't check if you have done it. For example you can complete the mission Croatia without rescuing the MCV by overtaking one of Nods Construction Yards.

I just found that engineer teleport glitch and it is very easy to do, so that will improve a lot of things, but I don't think it's too broken, because there are missions where you can't build anything at all, so you can't perform the glitch and you can't take over everything. It is probably a lot more useful for 100%, so that's probably getting more interesting than just building a big army and destroy the enemy. You can also do the same with any infantry unit with a building you can occupy, but idk where this would be useful.

Here are my results so far ( I will update this playlist over time ):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFurN_3ISVHkdG40tODUDuUjXpewqtKt3

Bavaria, GermanyE_Dragon8 years ago

I plan to pick up the PC version of this game somewhat soonish (maybe in a week, maybe in a month or even later).

I know there is not much competition here, but we should apply some rules to have a fair competition. So how do we define the rules for this game ?

I know there are many versions as from 1.00 original to the patched 1.09 version. So there are 2 ways we can treat that:

  1. We only allow 1.09 version as it is the most up to date and allows for fair completition between PC and X360 runners (afaik 360 version is patched 1.09, correct me if I'm wrong)
  2. We allow all versions as this might allow for maybe more glitches making the run faster and more interesting

The next topic to discuss is about the timing method:

  1. IGT would allow for fair competition regardless of how good your PC is as loads are not counted, but you can't weight in saves or restarting missions properly.
  2. RTA would solve the issue of saving/ failing a mission, but you get a small advantage with a faster PC through loads, but could be neglected if it is minimal.

Categories:

It makes sense to make a category for each campaign, but what difficulty should we use and how about bonus missions / Intel Entries ? It's probably best to have 2 separate categories, one for fastest completion on easy or normal ( sorta any%) and one for completing with all bonus missions ( Intel Entries ? if they aren't dumb ) on hard ( sorta 100% ).

Finally: I do not want to insult anyone, but the current (and only) run on scrin campaign is not an actual run. It is a compiliation of ILs put together in one video and not a run from the beginning of the game to the end in one segment. I'm not trying to run Mathgodpi down, the "run" is really good and I love his work and strats, but it would be unfair to let this on the leaderboard, as it is a compilation fo ILs and allowing that as a run is IMO dumb except if you allow segmented runs, but that should be in another category. We could also implement an IL leaderboards to solve this issue.

I hope we can get along well and find strats and tricks to optimize this game well.

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